[Closed] Aggressive XC 29er tyre combo recommendations?

O-O Chunky Monkey. Not terribly fast rolling possibly though. But they're solid, cheap, tubeless.

'Aggressive' and a preference for low rolling resistance don't tend to go together.
XKings, Rons and XR2's are all fast and work across a range of conditions.

XR3 2.3 front and saguaro 2.2 rear. Pretty much same criteria as yours.

I use Vittoria Barzo, they're not very angry but can get a bit shouty if you ping them off too many rocks or try and attack tha trailz, bloody Italians eh 😆

Ardents maybe?

Crossmark 2 on the rear when it's more dry.

Rocket rons front and rear is my go to "not bone dry, not stinking slop" combo

They're hard to find but the mighty Specialized Captain Control 2.2 on the back. Respectably fast, and actually has some grip, I love these- wish there was a 2.4.

On the front, not sure I can comment, I really don't like an ungrippy front tyre so I'd say DHR2 in 3C but that's not quick.

Shorty front, forekaster rear. But my xc may differ from yours....

Specialized Ground controls, grippy, quick rolling and decent sidewall for xc use. Did have a forekaster on the front, found it a bit vague, side knobs didnt have much bite, could work as a good rear tyre though.

DHR2 2.3 front, Minion SS 2.3 rear.

Spesh Ground Control (as recommended by Major Tom).

Hillbilly front / Ground Control rear in Grid or Control casing to suit?

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Currently running a Michelin Rock'R on the front and a Racing Ralph on the rear. Plenty of grip on the front a rear that that likes to slide around, great fun if you can keep it in check and have the confidence to hang off the front of the bike.

New Nobby Nic rolls really well for the grip IMO.

honourablegeorge - Member

DHR2 2.3 front, Minion SS 2.3 rear.

This is a very different definition of xc to mine!!

ferrals - Member .

This is a very different definition of xc to mine!!

Right - but it blends aggressive and fast rollign quite well. It's my setup for trail centres and the like. But the SS is a brilliant tyre for more than that

I'm liking my Hans Damph up front and a rock razor on the back. It's surprisingly ok in muddy conditions and quick rolling.

Usually Bonty XR4 2.35 Team on front, and saguro on rear..
JUST put an XR3 2.2 Team on the rear - want a bit more grip on the rigid SS..

DrP

Maxxis Forekaster ft and rr in 2.35.

On my SS I like my Ground Control front and a 500g Beaver! 2.0 out back. All year.

Ardent 2.4 Fr 2.25 R works nice for me, keen to try the Ground Control and XR4s though

I'm liking my Hans Damph up front and a rock razor on the back. It's surprisingly ok in muddy conditions and quick rolling.

I run that combo on my trail bike - I like it - but the only way you could describe it as 'quick rolling' is if you compared it to some sort of maxxis velcro tyre.

Same goes for the DHR/MinionSS combo

Ground Control is a good call, I liked that a lot

Ground Controls are good, but they have leaky sidewalls in the control casing and size up a bit small. Maybe the Grid is better? The newer Nobby Nics are better for similar grip/speed levels.

They're hard to find but the mighty Specialized Captain Control 2.2 on the back

Been a long term Conti/Schwalbe user for years but since trying Vittoria Tyres I won’t go back.
Good tread patterns, high volume, lightweight, smooth rolling, grippy, easy tubeless mounting, cheap...etc etc
Awesome!

Ground Controls are good, but they have leaky sidewalls in the control casing and size up a bit small. Maybe the Grid is better?

grid casing was OK for me.

That's what the OP would want if he's getting aggressive with his XC.

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fifeandy - Member

Do they actually still make them? I was under the impression they were replaced by the Ground Control.

I don't think they're still in production, I found a pair a wee while back online and snaffled them.

There's some beefy XC tyres on this thread!

Rocket Ron rear and Nobby Nic front....although depending on how much slop you ride through. Although I race on that through the winter months. Maybe swapping for a Bonty Mud X in real gloop.

I got rid of my suspension and geax sag on the front, and went rigid with a larger/tougher tyre (the XR4).
Seemed to be a move that was 'weight loss positive' yet still adequately soft and much grippier in the corners..

DrP

Intrigued by the Minion SS
Any specific Vittoria tread to consider?
Any Maxis Aggressor recommendations?

Needs to be 2.3" ish as running 25mm wide rims (internal).

Rons are good - I'm currently riding Onza Canis & Svelte (F & R) in a rather cool skin wall IMHO....so far so good!

Shorty front, forekaster rear. But my xc may differ from yours....

I've got that on my Tallboy currently!

My more XC variant would be Forekaster front, Ikon 2.35 rear...

Intrigued by the Minion SS

minion SS is an awesome rear tyre.

My favourite XC tyre for this time of year are Maxxis Beavers F & R. I guess it depends how much you weigh, and how heavy you are on gear, but I’m around 88kg in full kit and had success with the 2.0 width in exo casing, but now trying the 2.2’s. The latter have larger lugs and feel like there’s more rubber in the sidewalls, definitely a bit more robust feeling and better in off-piste situations, but the trade off is that they don’t feel as nippy as the 29x2.0s.

I’ve also used Spesh GC 29x2.1 as rear tyres and they’re a good general purpose XC tyre, unless you’re trashing through rock gardens every week. (Might have a couple of lightly worn 2.1s knowcking about if you fancy trying one...£10 plus contribution towards postage?)

Currently running vittoria barzo front and peyote rear. i think i'm getting to the limits of both now its getting sticky around here but they have surprised me how well they coped. Not heavy either (625g). Feel loads better then ron/ralph combo. Will be back to beaver 2.0 by the weekend as its time for a narrower tyre i think. Go to tyre for heavier duty riding, peaks etc would be forekaster 2.35.

looks like there's love for the Forekaster here.

If we nudged this over to the XC side, shall we say a climbing focussed area of enduro tyres, with some cornering bite and good rolling manners, what do you think?

I anticipate a trade off in weight vs traction yet low rolling resistance is still a high priority.

Rear End:
[b]Minion SS[/b] looks great for most use except winter. Is definitely short listed on the rear.
[b]Forekaster[/b]
[b]Aggressor[/b] To heavy?

Front:
[b]Minion DHRII [/b]- Has anyone trimmed the edges of the lugs down as recommended for front use. If so, any tips on technique + tool used?
[b]Forekaster[/b]
[b]DHF 2.3[/b] - to Heavy, slow rolling?

Ground Controls are good, but they have leaky sidewalls in the control casing and size up a bit small. Maybe the Grid is better? The newer Nobby Nics are better for similar grip/speed levels.

2018 ground control (2br) doesn't leak. Sizing is spot on. After a 2.3 for the back to team up with a butcher on the front

I just fitted some Halo Choirmaster 29" tyres, seem ok after a few rides, and went up tubeless without too much fuss.
Think they were £20 a pair ftom eBay.

I’m quite interested in the Forekaster, but really holding out for the 2.6. I appreciate 2.6 may be outside the scope of this thread...

2.4 mountain king 2 fr/rr or 2.4mk fr / 2.4 x-king RR

Tubeless, high volume,fast. A little shy on braking traction but I'll use this pairing for everything I'm pedaling or racing in Whistler/Squamish.

Onza Ibex 29 x 2.25 is my compromise for what I guess you are describing! Like a smaller, cut down, lighter High Roller in many ways. They've been great for two months now.

Maxxis Beaver front and rear on my 29er all year round, no complaints at all.

Don’t discount the 2.3 dhf for the more trail end of xc. I put one on for alps trip in summer and it’s so good I haven’t taken it off. Rolling resistance not noticeably worse than the ardent it replaced and soooo much better in corners. Ardent on the rear is good as long as you like it loose. If we get a really dry spell in summer I go ikon rear ardent front which is all day xc mile munching setup but lethal in any damp or loose stuff.

looks like there's love for the Forekaster here.

It's similar to a Nobby Nic (same width/volume despite the 2.35" moniker) but grippier in all conditions and faster rolling too. Nice and predictable on the rear, maybe not quite enough bite on the front for harder riding but more than a 2.25" ardent for sure.

DHF 2.3 - to Heavy, slow rolling?

Don’t discount the 2.3 dhf for the more trail end of xc. I put one on for alps trip in summer and it’s so good I haven’t taken it off. Rolling resistance not noticeably worse than the ardent it replaced and soooo much better in corners.

I'll take the 200g over a lighter tyre for the confidence it gives me every time. It's not that slow a tyre anyway (and you don't notice it on the front, you might on the rear but that's by the by). Forekaster on the front was ok, but it did slide every so often where the Minion doesn't. Swap for a Shorty in the winter months and you're laughing.

There's some beefy XC tyres on this thread!

Rocket Ron rear and Nobby Nic front

Depends on your priorities I suppose. I'll go out on my XC bike for a ride and try and take the piss out of my mates on the descents. A Rocket Ron for me would last about 5 seconds of the first trail! OK my tyres weigh 1lb more than yours do in total, but then again I'm not racing XC merely riding XC...