[Closed] Aftermarket dropper remotes - OneUp vs Wolf Tooth

I really like the OneUp. I've got the bar mount though so can't comment on the brake mount positioning, but it feels really smooth and has taken lots of crashing and zero maintenance with zero grumbles. Still feels smooth and nicely tactile.

I really like the oneup I just got to replace the reverb

I just replaced the truly awful level that came with my BrandX Ascend dropper. I used the Wolftooth, (Shimano I spec 2).

It's excellent, has made a huge difference.

OneUp lever is very good. Feels so weird when I go back to the old Reverb one now.

One up on my xfusion, works very well and ergonomics great.

cheers folks, looks like the OneUp is going to get bought.

If you want to mount a lever onto your hope brake mounts, you'll need to do more research, the one up lever doesn't fit onto hope matchmaker mounts as it's not the same mount.

The hope matchmaker is designed to fit directly onto the shift body, the oneup lever is designed to use the matchmaker adapter.

The wolftooth I spec a/b will fit to the hope lever though as they fit these by default with no adapter.

I'll also chuck in a 3rd option, the PNW components loam lever. Only in bar mount at the moment but SRAM/Shimano mounts are coming. Excellent lever.

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I have Wolftooth LA (light action) ones on 2 bikes.  They are great and one of the best upgrades I have done.  Both with Fox Transfer posts

If you don't want to spend a fortune the Bontrager one is good

I have the One Up which is brilliant. The WT would need to be very special at twice the price.

If you don’t want to spend a fortune the Bontrager one is good§

wins for me on two counts given how many i seem to break with my knees.

- cheap

- rounded edges

The hope matchmaker is designed to fit directly onto the shift body, the oneup lever is designed to use the matchmaker adapter

Ah crap. I've read that three times and still don't understand it.

The wolftooth I spec a/b will fit to the hope lever though as they fit these by default with no adapter.

Presumably with the Hope I spec a/b matchmaker clamp not the SRAM one?

Going to have to cancel my order for the OneUp! why can't these things be simple!

The wolftooth (Shimano I-Spec A & B) fits straight onto Hope Tech 3 brakes without any additional parts.

Hmm my brakes are race evos. Maybe I'll email OneUp/Wolf Tooth to see what would fit.

bought a oneup alongside the post and took 2x rides to break it. Not even in a crash just pushing to activate the post whilst riding down a rocky descent was enough to snap it.

Its made of plastic and this includes quite a thin bit that connects it to whatever bar mount you're using. that's what failed on mine. I suspect they will have this happen on a lot of them!

Also when I warrantied it I asked for store credit as I thought it was too fragile - they ignored this completely (despite me asking twice) and have just sent another one out to me so I guess that's that. Can't really see the logic in this for customer service but never mind.

I've already ordered a wolf tooth one and will be using it instead - hopefully a bit more hardy!

So in summary - oneup lever is too fragile and their customer service wasn't great! The seatpost I ordered does seem really good though so far and the lever worked nicely until it broke.

Brand new OneUp lever for sale - Shimano ispec 2 version if anyone is keen to buy it having read my review! 🙂

Cheers Pickle, bontrager one looks good to me, importantly has a hinge clamp so I can swap the dropper between bikes with minimum faff.

Why are dropper remotes more expensive than shifters when their functionality is so much simpler?

Don't know if it's been mentioned but with which dropper lever is going to best suit you also depends quite a lot on your controls set-up. Not just what you run but where you like them placed and angled on the bar.

Also. I don't think a grippy lever is required or even a good idea. all paddle levers when pushed rotate away from your thumb and as your thumb pushes it pivots away from the lever in the other direction. So you actually want the lever to slide slightly on your thumb rather than grip it. Seems like the idea that came from #Endurobros running grip tape on the original reverb plunger which did actually make more sense. (Especially for glove wearers) making a paddle controller grippier is fashion over function IMO.

I'll start the bidding at ONE POUND and a jammie dodger for the shit One up remote but you'll need to put it in a kinder egg where it sounds like it belongs before sending it 😉

In pictures:

The hope adapter attaches directly to the bolt holes in SRAM shifters etc:

Whereas the oneup lever uses the MMX adapter thing that is seperate.

Hmm, my enthusiasm for this is waning ... Is anyone running an integrated dropper remote with their Hope race brake levers?

So I bought a one up remote to go with my post third ride out it snapped off at the MMX attachement point.  It works beautifully but is very fragile! I bought a Bontrager one to replace it.  Not quite as nice to use but better from a robustness perspective

Hmm, my enthusiasm for this is waning … Is anyone running an integrated dropper remote with their Hope race brake levers?

The BikeYoke lever works with Hope Race MMX adapter.

I was using a bikeyoke lever with the cable converter on my Reverb until the Reverb died.  Got a One-Up lever with the post and, as mentioned above, quickly discovered it wouldn't fit with the Hope MMX adapter, I am currently using a band-on Wolftooth lever as there also isn't an adapter for the Hope Race lever that allows this to fit any other way.

The BikeYoke lever isn't as nice as either the Wolftooth or the One-Up though, and it's designed for a cable nipple at the lever end rather than the post end so I'm not sure that would work with your post.

I do see however that they do a rear cable version now..

https://www.tftuned.com/triggy-lever-rear-cable-feed-fox-giant/p3359

Bontrager ones ace. Rounded edges robust and works.

And it's 15 quid...

I did the bodgers paradise of old XT left hand lever is now my dropper lever. It is ace. Cost about 20mins faff.

Is the Bontrager this one?

https://www.pedalon.co.uk/acatalog/bontrager-drop-line-under-bar-lever.html

As I've seen images of 2 different types, and if its the one in the link then is there somewhere you can get it cheaper than £17.50?

Thanks

Yeah, that's the Bonty on I have.

I paid about £17 for it. Not sure if I've seen it cheaper when you include postage.

It all depends how much time you've got on your hands...
I got the lever cheap off a mate, so worth the faff. Especially over the original x-fusion lever.

The Bontrager one is cheap. Ergonomically it's pretty terrible compared to the likes of the OneUp/Wolftooth/etc though.

It's better than the original Reverb, but that'snot saying much 🙂

Also. I don’t think a grippy lever is required or even a good idea. all paddle levers when pushed rotate away from your thumb and as your thumb pushes it pivots away from the lever in the other direction. So you actually want the lever to slide slightly on your thumb rather than grip it.

Yes, this.  I keep seeing the little bits of grip tape and WTF? The wolf tooth has a knurled surface and the PNW a rubber piece.  On the bonty your thumb slides over it as the angle changes - you dont need grip here.

Ergonomically it’s pretty terrible compared to the likes of the OneUp/Wolftooth/etc though.

Not the first time I've seen this comment and I don't understand it.  It doesn't look as machined and angular but it's a button on a pivot that pulls a cable.  You can change the angle and distance from the end of the bar (and it doesnt conflict with the brake levers i've used  it with unlike the brand X).  I'm struggling with the ergonomic issues it supposedly has.

Had a nice reply from Wolf Tooth, they were very helpful. They confirmed the SRAM mount won't work (as pointed out above by ta11pau1 - thanks BTW you saved me a lot of faff there) and couldn't say for definite but suggested the same Shimano I spec A/B mount might work, but hadn't tried it.

H1ghland3r

The BikeYoke lever works with Hope Race MMX adapter.

Thanks for that, looking at it again it does look it will fit. I've emailed TFTuned to confirm.

The BikeYoke lever isn’t as nice as either the Wolftooth or the One-Up though

Interesting you say that as it looks comparable, in what way would you say it isn't as nice?

Not the first time I’ve seen this comment and I don’t understand it.  It doesn’t look as machined and angular but it’s a button on a pivot that pulls a cable.  You can change the angle and distance from the end of the bar (and it doesnt conflict with the brake levers i’ve used  it with unlike the brand X).  I’m struggling with the ergonomic issues it supposedly has.

Because you need (slightly less than original Reverb) contortionists thumbs to use it. It either sits in the right natural start point & it needs too much cable pull to engage the post so you have to change grip, or you have it set up to engage easily & have to change grip to get your thumb on it in the first place.

Compared to the WT/OneUp/Spec/PNW/etc, which are identical to using a shifter. Right where your thumb sits & no changing grip.

They are a stupid amount of money for what they actually are though.

Had a nice reply from Wolf Tooth, they were very helpful. They confirmed the SRAM mount won’t work (as pointed out above by ta11pau1 – thanks BTW you saved me a lot of faff there) and couldn’t say for definite but suggested the same Shimano I spec A/B mount might work, but hadn’t tried it.

No worries, I'd done all it all so just sharing what I'd learnt! I'm very likely to upgrade to some Hope tech 3 E4's at some point so wanted some future comparability. In the end I saw the PNW lever and loved it so if their upcoming shimano/sram mounts fit then that's great, if not I'll just use the bar mount.

Also, the rubber pad on the PNW is perfect, my thumb doesn't need to move when operating it and it provides a nice bit of grip.

What you get on the wolftooth/PNW lever over levers like the Bonty one is fully CNC machined construction, a huge sealed bearing, adjustability (inc reach on the PNW lever), which for me makes the extra £40 worth it. Plus it looks nice 😀

Thanks for that, looking at it again it does look it will fit. I’ve emailed TFTuned to confirm.

Definately works, I used the lever on a Hope race lever with MMX adapter for a couple of years until the Reverb died, at the time they didn't do the rear pull one so I switched to a wolftooth for the One-Up dropper when I realised the One-Up lever wouldn't fit..  of course it turns out the Wolftooth one didn't either so i'm stuck with a band for now.

I can't see the i-spec adapter working with the race lever either as the race adapters look like they do the same as the MMX one and bypass a lot of the adjustable fittings for a direct mount.

Interesting you say that as it looks comparable, in what way would you say it isn’t as nice?

Difficult to put my finger on, It worked reliably for the time I had it, never had a single issue with it but the action compared to the Wolftooth was less... smooth.? Like I say, difficult to articulate but something about it felt less well engineered..  It's entirely possible they have improved now so I certainly wouldn't count it out considering I am fairly sure, having looked at most of the options, that it is likely the only one that will direct mount to a Hope Race lever.

Thanks. I've ordered the bikeyoke 🙂 If I never try the wolftooth, I won't know what I'm missing so I'm sure it will be fine. Thanks again for the tip.

I have a One Up and Wolftooth LA.   Wolftooth is much much better.... but much much more expensive!

Just as an FYI, there is 20% discount on Wolftooth dropper remotes at mtbriders.co.uk.

Stevet1

Had a nice reply from Wolf Tooth, they were very helpful. They confirmed the SRAM mount won’t work (as pointed out above by ta11pau1 – thanks BTW you saved me a lot of faff there) and couldn’t say for definite but suggested the same Shimano I spec A/B mount might work, but hadn’t tried it.

@Stevet1 is that a typo and you mean OneUp confirmed that their lever doesn't work with the Sram mount? I thought the Wolftooth one did mfrom what I'd seen.

Nope, both One-up and WolfTooth don't integrate with the Hope race lever. Not sure about the Tech 3 lever. I initially thought that the SRAM mount lever option and the SRAM matchmaker Hope adapter would work together, but they don't - the Hope lever is designed to fit much more closely to a shifter that the WolfTooth/OneUp levers allow.

Thanks @Stevet1 that's a bit of a bugger as I have one in the garage ready to go on when I get round to it. Guess it'll be going back 🙁

Another vote for the Bontrager remote, used it to replace my Brand X one and its been spot on.

Another vote for the Bontrager remote, used it to replace my Brand X one and its been spot on.

That's good to know - the brand X on katies bike is loose and feels awful.  Dont the brand X droppers need the nipped at the lever end? (i've not checked) - presumably then just use grub at both ends?

yes but the Bontrager one has a small screw that holds the cable, real easy to fit and great for about £17

Yep use the grub at each end, bonus is that you can then adjust the cable from the lever end.

To set the record straight: OneUp actually came good on the customer service side and I was able to get a refund on the above purchase so good on you OneUp - will defo buy from you again (just not this product!). They also responded v.quickly initially vs any other supplier in the bike industry.

Also for what its worth the oneup lever was super smooth until it broke. The wolf tooth one is not as smooth but seems to be made of sterner stuff. The sacrificial part that breaks is also v easy to carry and looks easy to fit incase you do stove the lever into something.

I done made me one with an old gripshifter - yet to test ride it as it's on a bike that's mid-build but garage testing suggests should be ok

Anyone tried the Wolftooth LA with Hope tech 3 brakes? I saw their comment saying the lever on the LA was too long for shimano brakes but the Hopes do have a larger lever.

Was thinking of going for the One Up post and wondered which lever would be best with it.