[Closed] After a bit of a wait for the Duallys..........

Been waiting for this as I have ti Jones envy; looks lovely. How about a pic with the fat front on? And have you ridden it yet? If so how does it compare with the steel spaceframe you have? In a bit of a dither over whether to get a Ti truss for my diamond or just go for the full steel spaceframe.

Are the forks like Girvin Vectors but without the pivots? And whereabouts does the bike get ridden, as I wonder what terrain this was built for?
Yours Doubting Thomas 😉

Top marks for the purple bits, I like that. Lovely.

Gotama - Member
Been waiting for this as I have ti Jones envy; looks lovely. How about a pic with the fat front on? And have you ridden it yet? If so how does it compare with the steel spaceframe you have? In a bit of a dither over whether to get a Ti truss for my diamond or just go for the full steel spaceframe

I took it out on the road for a break in ride, so can't give a worth while comparison against the steel spaceframe as yet. It is definitely feels and rides a lot lighter though.

I'll get a picture of the fat front in the next couple of days.

tomaso - Member
Are the forks like Girvin Vectors but without the pivots? And whereabouts does the bike get ridden, as I wonder what terrain this was built for?
Yours Doubting Thomas

The forks haven't got any elastomers and they don't offer any suspension travel, but they do hold the front wheel on and let you steer; so I suppose they are slightly like Girvin Vectors.

The bike will get ridden on road and off road, both up and down hills and used for short and long rides. I don't think there are any restrictions on it 8)

jameso - Member
Top marks for the purple bits, I like that. Lovely.

I'm a big fan of the purple, but I've got fond memories of purple anodising from years ago. I just need to get rid of the skewers as they don't match and are slightly too much. Paul Comp will be releasing some skewers in April, so I'll probably go for a set of them in black.

I had a purple top cap and seat QR on mine for a bit, same reasons. looks great against the ti. Hubs is commitment.. ) Wheels held on by a Shimano XT F and ti bolts rear, solid fixing over colours here but dunno if it really makes the difference, fork is solid anyway.

Very nice indeed.

Do you always run your bars level?
I'm used to them being pointed more downwards towards the rear axle.

Nice,what's it weighing in at ?

jameso - Member
I had a purple top cap and seat QR on mine for a bit, same reasons. looks great against the ti. Hubs is commitment.. ) Wheels held on by a Shimano XT F and ti bolts rear, solid fixing over colours here but dunno if it really makes the difference, fork is solid anyway.

I did buy a purple Chromag seat collar as well, but decided it was going to be an over kill and the colour was ever so slightly different to the Paul Comp hubs anyway. I'll be getting plain black skewers on it, which I think will be a definite improvement.

Atomizer - Member
Very nice indeed.

Do you always run your bars level?
I'm used to them being pointed more downwards towards the rear axle.

No, that picture was taken before I had properly set everything up. I run my loop bars angled down slightly so they run in line with the stem.

fasthaggis - Member
Nice,what's it weighing in at ?

I haven't got a clue to be honest and I don't even own a set of scales. It has built up a lot lighter than I thought it would and it definitely feels and rides lighter than my steel spaceframe.

nice work! how do you fit the steerer through the headtube with the bit that clamps on top? I can't quite work it out from the pictures?

edit ah the steerer is separate and it clamps on both ends. 🙂

Nice bike mister.

iffoverload - Member
nice work! how do you fit the steerer through the headtube with the bit that clamps on top? I can't quite work it out from the pictures?

edit ah the steerer is separate and it clamps on both ends.

Here is a better picture of the headtube.

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vorlich - Member
Nice bike mister.

Ta very much 😀

Gotama - Member
Been waiting for this as I have ti Jones envy; looks lovely. How about a pic with the fat front on? And have you ridden it yet? If so how does it compare with the steel spaceframe you have? In a bit of a dither over whether to get a Ti truss for my diamond or just go for the full steel spaceframe.

Just put the fat front on; a Rolling Darryl with a Husker Du 26 x 4.

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Ta, lovely bike you have there. In fact you have two lovely bikes with the green spaceframe in the shed as well!

Here is a better picture of the headtube.

How do you pre-load the headset?

Edit: Ah just found [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/fitting-jones-truss-forks ]this thread[/url]. Though it might be something like that.

Nice – I'm [i]told[/i] those Jones bikes are very capable and a joy to ride.

Gotama - Member
Ta, lovely bike you have there. In fact you have two lovely bikes with the green spaceframe in the shed as well!

Yeah, my green steely spaceframe is great; I've got that set up as a singlespeed with a knard 29x3 on the front.

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mrblobby - Member
Here is a better picture of the headtube.
How do you pre-load the headset?

You just tighten up the lower bolts and then then adjust the headset as normal.

The lower crown race is replaced with a top bearing cover.

Looks great. Just fuels my desire for a geared Jones to match SS

biff  - Member   Nice – I'm told those Jones bikes are very capable and a joy to ride.

Maybe you should think about buying one then.
Can't see that they'd be much cop offroad myself like.

biff - Member
Nice – I'm told those Jones bikes are very capable and a joy to ride.

Well I'm definitely a 'Jones' convert, my other bikes struggle to get a look in.

So. Thanks to you, I find myself checking out framesets online. 🙂

Red diamond with Ti truss is stunning!

Seems I might be able to put one together without getting too carried away with new wheelsets etc - [i]if[/i] the truss fork will take the fat front from my Mukluk. Mine is a 2014 with the new Bearpaw fork, so has a 135 front spaced brake mount. Would I still need to bodge the rotor with a shim? Anyone know?

The truss fork uses a 9 mm hub with front brake spacing.
The mukluk uses a 10mm hub with rear spacing.

Just been for a ride off-road on a Jones - turns out it's bloody wonderful.
Who'd have thunked it. Riding one (with an open mind) recommended :O)

I rode mine over a jump at the weekend and it didn't explode on landing. We were all surprised.

Vorlich - I have a red diamond with unicrown that I might switch over to a spaceframe depending on availability. If you're not fussed about new then drop me a mail if it's of interest.

You're right about the 9mm vs 10mm unfortunately, but this is from the Mukluk page:

135mm Fork Spacing
Utilizes front rotor/brake spacing. Allows removal of front wheel without detaching front brake caliper

Biff, what's the stock status on Red Diamond frames?

I [i]think[/i] 7 framesets is current stock of red diamond/unicrown.

Cheers, what about frame only? Thinking about pairing with a Ti truss.

[b]Any of those can be bought with a Ti Truss fork instead of the Unicrown.[/b]

Oddly enough the next test bike has it Duallys - waiting on saddle and tyres

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Hoses to allow for longer stem to be fitted (test riders come in all shapes and sizes).
And yes, that pink wall needs to get its (summer) coat.

Interesting choice of front rim, a Marge Light would have been my choice. Throw on a Bud, you won't regret it!

Lovely bike BTW.

Vorlich.
You will be able to get the mukluk wheel to fit the truss by turning the 10mm axle down to 9mm.
Trouble is hen it will be the wrong size for the salsa fork.
I did exactly this with a spare wheel from my mukluk to get it to fit my truss fork. 🙂

Had mine for over 4 years now 😀

Tires have ben getting bigger and better over that time.

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A carbon rear rim will be going on soon, and maybe a Bend H bar - should knock off the best part of a pound, or so.

Anyone running a Bend bar? Any reports?

any links to FAQs that helps someone who has no bloody idea what that thing is about learn more please? 🙂

www.jonesbikes.com

Chapeau sir- I love the purple !!

FRC.

How tall are you?

Bugger, I didn't realize you were suppose to ride Jones bikes?!?!

Biff pics doesn't do the width of the rims justice. They are wide in this XC jay boys opinion.

Vorlich.
You will be able to get the mukluk wheel to fit the truss by turning the 10mm axle down to 9mm.
Trouble is hen it will be the wrong size for the salsa fork.
I did exactly this with a spare wheel from my mukluk to get it to fit my truss fork.

Thanks Stu. I just nipped out to have a look, it appears Formula/Salsa hubs are 9mm-ish, despite what the website says, or am I missing something?

EDIT: actually the Salsa site says 9mm on the Frame Tech page and 10mm on the Build Kit page.

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pop larkin - Member
Chapeau sir- I love the purple !!

Thanks 8)

The titanium truss forks are lovely and I was tempted for my steel spaceframe. It will be interesting to see what the difference is between the steel and titanium versions once I've got a few good rides in.

I would be interested in your findings although tbh I don't find the weight of mine (steel diamond and truss) to be a massive issue- doesn't stop me wanting the ti buzz tho!!

Tall enough 😉

pop larkin - Member
I would be interested in your findings although tbh I don't find the weight of mine (steel diamond and truss) to be a massive issue- doesn't stop me wanting the ti buzz tho!!

The complete ti diamond feels a lot lighter to pick up and ride, but I haven't been able to put a long ride in yet to compare the differences.

According to Jeff's website, the ti truss is 1.83lbs against the steel version at 2.64lbs.

FRC.
Not by the look of your bike you're not;-)

Vorlich.
My mark1 mukluk came with a surly hub.

I don't find the weight of mine (steel diamond and truss) to be a massive issue-

I'd say the weight difference betwen steel and ti is more noticeable when you pick them up than when riding. Ti version has slightly more pep and the steel has a more plough through anything feel.

I manage thank you very much 😉

Sunny day. Off for a ride, I hope I'm tall enough 😉

Just popping back to show the Duallys here with some Conti tyres now fitted. Certainly some heft (compared to [i]XC lite[/i] rims) but a fab profile/volume and looking forward to seeing just how low I can go with the tyre pressures.

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And here's a close up (talc residue from tyre fitting fun!)

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Nice to see a normal amount of seatpost sticking out the frame there Biff.
Take note FRC. 😆

That Ti diamond looks fab, i quite like the purple, what is the rear hub?

Steel space frame here, love it to bits.

I love the red diamond with the standard forks.

Biff - Does the steel diamond with standard forks allow for the fitment of mudguards and a rear pannier rack?

seanthesheap - Member
That Ti diamond looks fab, i quite like the purple, what is the rear hub?

Steel space frame here, love it to bits.

Thanks Sean.

The rear hub is a [url= http://www.paulcomp.com/diskword.html ]Paul Comp Disc Word[/url].

Yes - rack and mudguards can be fitted...

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Same bike, on and off-road :O)

Jeff wrote a blog post about it "Jones as a City and Touring Bike".

biff - Member
Yes - rack and mudguards can be fitted...

Cool, thanks Biff; just e-mailed you.

Seems wrong to post this in here alongside the OP's stunning specimen, but this thread set me off down a path. So I'd just like to lay the blame a the feet of all who posted here.

Gotama was a pleasure to deal with, and I managed to cannibalise several other bikes to sling this together. It'll be getting some new bits soon enough, but this build get me riding this weekend. 🙂

The front wheel off my 2014 Mukluk fits without issue, no bodging required.

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Titanium parts/fork only a matter of time...

I think the red frame looks great 8)

The black frames are also lovely, but I like a bit of colour.

The bike looks great, you must be over the moon with the way it turned out.

Yeah I like the red frame with Ti truss look 🙂 That's further off though!

Finger hovering over Eriksen Sweetpost purchase. 😀

vorlich - Member
Yeah I like the red frame with Ti truss look That's further off though!

Finger hovering over Eriksen Sweetpost purchase.

I can definitely recommend the Eriksen post, as both my Jones have one fitted.

I usually run Thomson on my bikes, but I found that the Thomson post slipped slightly in the steel frame whereas the Eriksen is spot on.

I ordered mine direct from Eriksen and never got hit with the import.

Good to hear. I've only ever owned one Thomson and was never that impressed with it. The clamp was good, but was undersized and marked easily.

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Loving the grip 🙂

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Nice build John :O)

[edit] according to Sir Biff of Eastbourne the silly hose mount on the Uni is for the Americans as they ride their brakes the wrong way round. Makes no sense to me.

Yes, now sorted 🙂

First ride today. A bit of toe overlap on occasion with the EBB at 6, moved it back to 9 and will see how I get on tomorrow, I'm used to having the axle under my arch when descending on flats, I suspect it will be getting SPDs at some point anyway, which should help.

More tweaking and layback needed. Short wheelbase caught me out on the first drainage ditch I rode, I'm used to riding with a bit of fork weight bias on my Soul, but I can see the Jones really wants you hanging off the back. First impressions good though, very comfortable and nimble, reckon it'll make a great bikepacking bike.

reckon it'll make a great bikepacking bike.

One thing I forgot to mention was how great it felt climbing out the saddle, really seemed to slot into the space behind the bars. On a spin around the street yesterday after moving the EBB back, it seemed noticeably more responsive to pedal input, no surprises there, it'll be interesting to see how that translates to the trail.

The sun is shining, I'm off up to Perth for a ride. 🙂