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[Closed] Advice please! Liv Langma Advanced 1 & Giant Conduct SL brakes

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Hi folks,

I am looking to get my GF a road bike. I was initially thinking a Canyon Endurace but she had a bike fit yesterday which suggested something more racy than endurance would suit her better. The shop (who sell Giants & Specialized) were strongly suggested the 2019 Langma Advanced 1 Disc. I was told it was full ultegra including brakes but it now looks like it comes with the hybrid Giant Conduct SL brakes which is putting me off.

I understand these are there to get the bike to a price point.

I am wondering if anyone has experience of this bike, these brakes or has alternative suggestions for a similar bike. We would get 10% of the price and a full 3-hour bike fit with the Liv.

https://www.liv-cycling.com/gb/langma-advanced-1-disc-2019

Thank you.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 4:56 pm
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I have a Langma Advanced Pro 0 (2018) so can't comment on the brakes, but I love the bike.  I managed to write my first one off in a crash and bought an exact replacement as soon as the insurance money came through.  I'd definitely recommend giving it serious consideration.


 
Posted : 18/09/2018 5:05 pm
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Hi H, thanks for that! Do you have the disc or rim brake model?

There is a bit of a price jump between the advanced disc and advanced disc models.


 
Posted : 19/09/2018 10:37 am
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105 cassette and kmc chain, not many companies give you full groupsets. Trek do but for most there is a downgrade somewhere.


 
Posted : 19/09/2018 11:46 am
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I've got rim brakes on mine which works for most of the riding I do and means I can use my existing collection of wheels.  I haven't had a major issue with them other than them getting a bit warm while descending Covadonga the other week (carbon rims).

I'd actually also be interested on feedback on the brakes - I want to get a disc braked avail as a winter bike and was hoping that the 2019 would have a full hydraulic/105 option but it doesn't, so I'm trying to decide whether to go for the hybrid version or look at other options.


 
Posted : 19/09/2018 12:11 pm
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If these are the same cable to hydro brakes I have on my Contend SL1, the one with the conversion gubbins and reservoir on the front of the stem, they are actually pretty good. Only real downside I have found was limited space on the bars for lights as the thing its self is quite wide, and it has cables/cable tails coming out horizontally each side.

Just as brakes though, certainly a big step up from cable disc, if not quite as smooth as hydros.


 
Posted : 19/09/2018 2:09 pm
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Mrs Gasket is about to get a Langma Advanced Pro Disc 0.

The Advanced Pro versions (0, 1 and 2) all come with full hydros.

The Advanced versions (1 & 2) have the cable-hydro-hybrids which work pretty well.

It's a close call between the Advanced 1 at £2k and the Advanced Pro 2 at £2.6k. The former has Ultegra and the latter has 105, which on paper would suggest the Advanced 1 has the edge but for me the Pro2 is the better buy long term. It has nicer wheels, a full carbon OD2 fork, proper hydro brakes and looks better too.


 
Posted : 19/09/2018 3:39 pm
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Thanks guys - that's really useful.

Reggie, your right the pro has the same frame with 105 but full hydros, a carbon steerer and upgraded wheels. However the Pro 2 is £600 more and not available for another 2 months. Whether it looks better or not is personal preference I suppose 🙂


 
Posted : 19/09/2018 5:06 pm
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I have the conduct system on 2 bikes. Its pretty good. I would like to swap to full hyrdo at some point but in the meantime I like the conduct stuff. Much better than the cable brakes it replaced on one bike. The only reason I would replace to be honest is because the stem reservoir doesn't look that great. Functionally good, aesthetically less good.


 
Posted : 20/09/2018 8:49 am

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