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[url= http://www.buzzfeed.com/jonstone/22-london-cycle-lanes-that-hate-cyclists#.hblXW6RKj ]A little more cycle land silliness[/url]
Having a buzzfeed day are we?
Actually I think I get the point of 15 - it prevents cars from moving left to straddle the speed hump, so is kind of useful there.
Most of those cycle facilities look ok, #8 I mean you'd want to put a barrier to stop people cycling straight onto the main road and the pavement is blind due to the wall. Do we really care if there is a big puddle, are we supposed to have no bike lane on the basis it floods occasionally ?
number 8 makes sense: it's a bike lane heading straight out in to an unrestricted road so having a chicane will slow things down.
Actually I think I get the point of 15 - it prevents cars from moving left to straddle the speed hump, so is kind of useful there.
Paint doesn't prevent cars from moving left; kerbs, barriers and bollards do. (Sometimes.) It's just another token gesture. I bet if you go to that street the paint will have been worn away by car tyres.
Fair enough, I phrased that poorly - the intention is good though, it makes sense to suggest to drivers that they should keep right, and unlike most of the examples, it is at least preferable to have the paint there then not to have it.
Erm, confession time. Number 16 is mine 😉
I was responsible for design most of the road markings for the post game olympic park. When I did that junction the road was going to be lot wider. Somewhere along the line the road got narrowed and no one told me so the road markings weren't amended to suit. Only found out when it came up on a list of snagging.
Number 20 is clearly for Danny Mac or that Akrigg fella! 😀
Erm, confession time. Number 16 is mine
Embarrassing. The flaw in your argument is that the road was definitely built [i]before[/i] the paint was applied.
I cycled along number 6 today. It's a bit bonkers, but the alternative is that cyclists would end up stuck on the very left of the road and couldn't use the ASL at the junction, which is just out of sight on the right of the photo. The real problem is putting a two way cycle lane on one side of a busy road with plenty of junctions on.
What really gets me is that a little bit further along that road, the narrow, two-way cycle lane is separated by solid metal bollards. You wouldn't dream of placing solid bollards down the centre of a normal road so why is acceptable in a bike lane, where the consequences of hitting one are going to really hurt?
Flaw in the argument? You are quite right that the road gets built first before the marking go down but not my fault in this case. Nope, I get given a road design before it gets built, I do the markings. Road design changes and no one asks me to amend the road markings. New road and old markings get sent to contractor and a fudge is the end result. Dare I say that some contractors stick to the design even if they realise it's wrong because they'll go for additional costs for corrections after following the design provided. Cynical. Yep, you betcha!
Folk are allowed to park in designated parts of Cycle Superhighways after 7pm and at weekends. Given how few cyclists use them at this time I don't think it's a particular hardship.
Given how few cyclists use them at this time I don't think it's a particular hardship.
It's hard to use them when they're full of parked cars 😉
And aracer: yeah, you're right. Good intentions, poorly executed.
whitestone - Member
number 8 makes sense: it's a bike lane heading straight out in to an unrestricted road so having a chicane will slow things down.
Wrong.
There should be a big sign on the road. [b]Cycleway Crossing. Car drivers must dismount and push their car across the intersection.[/b]
Wouldn't that be nice? 🙂
[quote=whitestone ]number 8 makes sense: it's a bike lane heading straight out in to an unrestricted road so having a chicane will slow things down.
Having encountered lots of stuff like that today trying to use cycle routes on the tandem with panniers on, no it makes no sense at all if you want to have practical usable cycle routes. If they need to force cyclists to slow down, then to be blunt there is something wrong with the cycle route (as epi points out, drivers would never put up with that sort of shit). Personally I'd just about put up with having to give way to all the roads I'm crossing (when I'm on a through long distance cycle route going somewhere, crossing local roads), but don't need stuff like that taking my concentration away from the road crossing at a critical point.