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Looking for a pair of chains & locks to lock up bikes in garage (with ground anchor etc).
I thought the Planet X ones were the same level as Sold Secure but hadn't paid for the accreditation.
Jobsworth Be Reet Biffa Chain Lock - £25
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/BLJBBRBCL/jobsworth-be-reet-biffa-chain-lock---10mm-x-1400mm
and / or
Oxford Chain10 Sold Secure £36
Anything else I should look at?
Crumbs. 25 quid... 36 quid.
You may have stumbled across some bargains there, but I doubt it.
I think the chains I bought were around £400 -500 or thereabouts.
I doubt that a 25 quid one is worth the effort to turn the key.
Sold secure means nothing at all. It's an ad campaign by manufacturers of shit locks
evans often have deals on OnGuard chains.
I've got 6.5m of this one
https://securityforbikes.com/proddetail.php?prod=P13-x.x-SS50CS
2.5m of the thicker one, and 2m of the thin one.
Best in mind that this is in the lowest classification of three that Pragmasis use, and yet it's still 60% bigger than the Oxford chain you're thinking of.
TBH if the thief has a grinder then I'm stuffed anyway, but some of these little chains are pretty pointless
I have spend £1200 on the security doors. The chains are really just to slow them down a bit. At a certain point they'll just cut the frame.
Sold secure means nothing at all. It’s an ad campaign by manufacturers of shit locks
It might mean nothing but if it's specified by your insurers out could be worth a lot.
TBH if the thief has a grinder then I’m stuffed anyway, but some of these little chains are pretty pointless
Personally I'm at the opposite end to this, in my garage they're locked with the minimum to satisfy my insurance requirements, their purpose being to keep the insurance happy and stop someone simply walking in and walking out whilst I'm not paying attention. Out and about I take a big chunky lock which weighs about the same as my bike. My theory being anyone who broke into my garage isn't going to be deterred by a lock and chain if they've already made their way through the door, wall or roof. They're also going to find all the tools they could want to use to cut those chains in the garage anyway. Given I know a few folk who've been woken up in the night by folk asking for keys I'm happy to make it easy enough for them once they're in the house/garage.
Out in the wild it's less likely to become my problem if they can't nick it easily enough and it's much more likely to be opportunistic, even if they're carrying tools. A minute's work is likely to be the difference between my bike being nicked and them thinking better of it.
TL:DR I'd be happy enough with the above in the garage if my insurance was, I wouldn't use them out side unless I was confident they're going to make someone look elsewhere.
I’d recommend going for 16mm chain to give any real resistance.
10mm chain is easily and silently cut with a pair of bolt croppers
16mm and above needs an angle grinder. Which are noisier and 16mm will take longer to cut than 10mm
But 16mm chains will be a lot more expensive.
Good point about the 16mm chains. My last ones were 12mm. They stole those along with the bikes.
With chains it’s also about making sure they’re difficult to get at. So if you’ve got decently solid walls I’d put the ground anchor on the wall and make sure you look the chain so it’s quite tight and nowhere near the ground. That then makes it difficult to get leverage with bolt croppers if you have a decent chain.
I’ve got a chain10 as it’s sold secure gold and so passed the home insurer’s minimum requirement - and also got a much heavier motorcycle chain with enormous solid padlock. Those 2 go through the ground anchor and the bikes - then I have a hip lock sold secure gold chain that also holds the 3 bikes together.
There’s also an alarm on the garage and it should be reasonably hard to get in there - plus my bikes are insured. I don’t think I can do too much more.
Another vote for pragmasis(protector) chain linked above. I have the 13mm it’s muckle and I think almost bolt cropper proof ? Or maybe it’s 16mm one.
Great chains