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[Closed] 83ft long lorry - Any danger to cyclists or pedestrians?

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"By comparison, a normal articulated lorry is 16.5m (54ft) long and a "bendy-bus" is 18m (59ft)"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/8388420.stm


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 2:42 pm
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aint no pedestrians in the shire mate!

we don't have pavements most the time!


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 2:48 pm
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No, just dont undertake it and pray it doesn't overtake you!


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 2:48 pm
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That would probably depend on whom is driving it.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 2:48 pm
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The rest of the world seems to get on fine with them. In South Africa, 22m trucks are common. In Aus, they have 50m Road trains, although these aren't used in the cities.

I don't see what the big deal is really.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 2:49 pm
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shred - all of those examples are countries with areas of low traffic density (where the lorries operate) and large distances involved. It makes sense there. I'm not sure it does here.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 2:55 pm
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I wondered what the field of vision is, given they are trying to phase out bendy buses as being too long and a hazard to cyclists.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 2:56 pm
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coffeeking. that situation [i]does[/i] apply for lincs. (tho i am assuming they wont be hauling into and out of cities)

i think the bendy buses comparison is a bit mental. given that the issue there is that they are constructed specifically for city use, and i should imagine your average double-artic driver will try as hard as he can to stay out of the centre of major cities...


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 2:59 pm
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From the explanation given, it appears that this monstrosity is only needed at all because cereal is insufficiently dense. 🙂


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 3:00 pm
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i am confused, i have been involved in loading 80+ft trailers before so what is so special?


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 3:13 pm
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fron an environmental stance, it makes sense imo (ok, apart from less trains being used, but how mancy train depos are there next to grain farms?). safety wise (bor bikes) perhaps not... but the guy interviewed at the end is a twerp... if it IS road legal now, there is no reason for them to be allowing 60t or 50m lorries. flawed logic imo.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 3:15 pm
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The fact that they'd spend 99% of their life shuttling between depots (motorways etc) means a so what for me.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 3:49 pm
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No danger as long as you are listening to you ipod...


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 3:51 pm
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mrmo - if you are in the UK you are loading 'out of gauge' trailers that are run under very specific regulations and cooperation with local authorities, designated routes, police etc. The haulage company seems to think this thing is in gauge.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 4:14 pm
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20 years in cereals and I never saw an underweight wheat wagon, plenty that were over though!


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 4:46 pm
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If we are to have 83ft lorries then they had better ban the use of Sat Nav in them... they are bound to come unstuck in some of the rat runs lorries try to use when guided by sat-nav


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 7:08 pm
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I was pretty sure that anything with a trailer longer that 45ft was an abnormal load and had to be escorted.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 7:13 pm
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just pray one doesn't overtake you on a country 'A' or 'B' road. Imagine the 'back draft' from it as it passes by!! Then imagine it trying to overtake you on a road that doesn't have many long straights to allow it to!

Not good!!


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 7:26 pm
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In Oregon they allow triple trailer artics, but only on designated roads - the main interstate freeways. The truck has to be broken down to normal length for smaller roads. That would make sense for this sort of truck.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 7:29 pm
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Needs a special escort vehicle and 2 days notice to the Police. Junctions and roundabouts etc. in the rural shires are not designed for such dimensions, and would most certainly cause problems; I've had to send vehicles over the top of roundabouts because they simply cannot get around them. This can take hours and diversions have to be set up.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 7:59 pm
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I'm less worried about 83ft lorries in Lincolnshire than I am by pretty much all the other drivers in Linolnshire.


 
Posted : 01/12/2009 8:15 pm

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