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Need to build strong wheels that will comfortably take 28mm tyres and deal with towpaths/pot-holed roads around central London for my commute.
Currently have stock Langster wheels which have been OK but now the hubs are toast and rims worn a long way past the wear line.
Any suggestions please?
You don't state budget and guessing weight is not important. Something like a Mavic A319 would do it.
My bike came with Aksium Discs, they've taken a lot of crap like misjudged kerb hops, potholes, and low pressure pinch flats, and they're very round still. I'm impressed.
Your preferred hubs and mavic open pro
Archetype rims on 350 hubs and DT comp spokes.
Do you want to run tubeless?
The wheels which came on my Croix de fer have been bombproof so far. Road the Cambrian trail on them so have had a good bashing and several river dunks. Alexrims Draw 1.9p on whatever hubs they came attached to.
Edit: these are for disks so having re-read your post, this is useless advice.
Any reasonable road rim or wheel set will be fine.
If you want strong, the rim choice of fully laden tourers are 36h sputniks.
Got a pair on my tourer and they are bomb proof. Heavy though
If you really want STRONG, Mavic CXP33 are better than Open Pros. Highly recommended in the US by clydesdales. I have a set and they are fantastically rigid. Mine are Dura Ace and Sapim race.
I'm 69 kg, so possibly a bit overkill, but aerogains and braking too!
Some good sensibly priced options [url= https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m2b0s116p0/Parts-and-Accessories/Components-Wheels-Rims ]here[/url]...
Thanks everyone!
@kerley: yeah weight and price aren't a big deal (hoping for 5 year+ life of 6x/week usage). I'll take a look at the A319.
For aesthetic reasons I like black medium depth rims like (which I've seen recommended on other threads). For similarly shallow image reasons I prefer welded rather than pinned 😉
@firestarter- I have always wanted open pro however they look a bit narrow for 28mm tyres.
@TiRed- I've previously run CXP22, which were fine so I guess CXP33 (CXP pro these days?) will be good too.
I've run 35mm CX tyres on Open Pros and have toured (luggage, variable surfaces) with 28mm tyres on them.
Black medium depth strong..
R460 not r460db(disk brake)
Pretty cheap too.
DT Swiss rims seem a good shout for this. I’ve got an R460 on DCR front wheel and an RR511 on shim 105 rear wheel (from Strada) and they both seem pretty bombproof. The RR511 especially. Look nice, stiff, decent internal width (18mm I think).
I've had no problems with Exal LX17s. Cope Ok with my 16 stones. Cheap, and come in black, silver, 32 0r 36 versions.
Around 100g lighter than the Sputniks which I also have. They are overkill for anything bar loaded touring IMO. I think 28mm tyres may be a touch narrow for Sputniks as well.
https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m2b0s116p1565/EXAL-LX17
+1 Archetypes on hub of choice (Hope on my commuter)
I had no issues running stock Shimano RX10’s in Sheffield with our famously crap road surfaces, either 28 or 35mm tyres.
A pair of these, built, is around £115-£120.
I’ll second Submarine, I bought some aksium discs as some emergency replacements for my commuter and they’ve been great for nearly a year and 8000ish miles.
I’ve got some 40c schwalbe land cruisers on there at the moment and they’re fine
The RR511 especially. Look nice, stiff, decent internal width (18mm I think).
DT have just released wider (20 mm) versions of the 511,411 and 460 called the 521,421 and 470 respectively.
For 28c I'd go for a wider option than 18 mm, 20 mm should be spot on.
Thanks again. Eventually I got open pro even though I'm uneasy about putting 28mm tyres on them and for looks I prefer slightly deeper.
For hub I wanted Miche Primato *small flange* but apparently they are not available in black?!
Twowheels I ran 1.8 inch 29er and 35mm cx tyres for ages on my open pros no problems at all
Open Pros will be just fine with 28c. I'm running 30c on some old Ksyriums which are the same width. Honestly, the wider rims are a thing, but there's not a lot wrong with 19mm for most uses.
I race 33c on the same rims too for Cx
+ 1 for Exal LX17 rims from Spa Cycles, only about £18, well made, been using with 28c tyres for ages.
there's not a lot wrong with 19mm for most uses
According to [url= https://forum.cyclinguk.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=112939&start=120 ]this thread[/url] on the Cycling UK forum, the newer 19mm wide version of the Open Pro rim has a relatively thin braking surface, which might be less than ideal for a commuter. Apparently the previous version of the Open Pro, which is 15mm wide (and presumably has a thicker braking surface), is still available, but has been renamed Open Pro C.
@slowster, tired: yeah I got the Open Pro C (15mm internal).
Also ordered Novatec hubs (small flange) and will get Sapim Race spokes. Weight for pair should be ~1700g (excl. rim tape and cog). I'm pretty happy with that (despite saying I don't care about weight and will be using Continental GP4S anyway!)
Open Pros will be just fine with 28c.
Even with 25c I found the old open Pro a bit narrow compared to more modern rims. Very noticeable going from something like an Open Pro to an Archetype.
Yes they look narrow by modern standards - see my Hed jet plus disc, for example. But in truth, I see little performance issue with tyres up to 33c.
Pave 25c sit perfectly on the old Open Pros. I think the later replacement vittorias are wider. The profiles of wider rims are better with 23c tyres, but it's not a huge issue now if road tyres in wider widths are readily available.
I really like the Velocity a23 rims. Made in USA, tubeless ready and have super sweet ride. Just building second pair with these.
Hi thanks. I stuck with the Open Pro- the inner width actually looks a whisker wider than the stock rim.
I got delayed with the build and just about to order spokes.
According to the spoke length calculator at https://leonard.io/edd/ for Novatec A265SBT/A266SBT (small flange) hubs:
front=296.5mm
rear=295.1mm
296mm will be fine for both, right? (I can just order a box of 72, which is much cheaper)
You don't need wide rims, that's marketing bs.
Deeper ones will be less comfortable. And heavier.
I have a set of Kinesis Crosslight rims with 28mm road tyres on and they work very well.
In case there was any doubt the OpenPros are fine with 28mm tyres. In the end I used ACI Alpina F1 (2.0 / 1.7/ 2.0) because they also have good reviews but are much cheaper than Sapim Race or DT Comp.
Here is the front (rear is still in progress :))
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Just need to hammer them on the towpath fully laden for a few months before I can give a full endorsement of this combo 🙂