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So this is my first winter with a plus bike, and whilst the tyres have been a hoot in the dry it's clear they are near fatal in the slop.
What are people doing? Fitting 29er wheels with proper mud tyres? Smaller 650b mud tyres? Not sure how to approach it 😕
It's a Charge Cooker 1 so has wide rims (or at least seem it to me)
(I'm in a chalk and clay area, claggy unless you think hard about route)
29in wheels for the slop here
Got the chubbies out again at the weekend for the snow, was fun intermittently but bloody hard work and dangerously unpredictable.
Put my ****ing back out saving an unexpected front wheel wash out.
A couple of cm of slop on top of a firm surface (ooerr missus!) is about the worst conditions for plus and fat tyres - you just slide all over the place.
I got a set of 650b+ wheels for my 29er and just swap back and forth as required or the mood takes me. I have to move the cassette over and realign brake calipers but that's about it, might need to add sealant if it's a long while since I've used the wheels.
29er's for any sort of dampness!
29in wheels for the slop here
+ another.
Plus if it's frozen, but if it's wet they just act like boats on wet mud when you really want to cut through. The only place I would consider them when wet is well drained loamy woodland where their ability to form round wet roots is fantastic.
Power on through. Catching slides is fun.
Like all wheel sizes it's as much to do with tread, tpi count and pressure.
My first B+ tyres were awful in mud. The Nobby Nics are much, much better.
29 on mine now. Rekon not a winter tyre!
Only 40miles or so but these nobby nics seem pretty damned good, was eyeing up DHR 2's (eye watering cost), but I'll stick with NN's for now
NN's on mine in 3" flavour. Great for local Pennine grinding paste. Dreadful when the encountered some Dales mud last week!!
2.8 HR2’s all good in the mud and snow in the Peak this weekend
£40 Gets you a set of these 650b [url= https://www.merlincycles.com/schwalbe-fat-albert-snakeskin-folding-tyre-275-91916.html ]Fat Alberts[/url] ,they are fairly high volume and a tall tyre that is designed for soft conditons and 'could' work well with your rims.
I ran 2 front versions(one on rear also) last winter and this and have had great fun with them.
2.8 dhf on the front and HR2 on the back. Pretty solid.
Also swap to 29er wheels to keep up with the cross country boys. Although I am fitting 2.5 Dhfs to them.
Longitude user here. NN 3.0 and 2.8 on one wheelset and some Clement MSO 40c on some 29 wheels. Slow or fast mode.
Next month I'll be getting some G One 29/2.25 bad boys on there too.
Dhf/dhr 2.8 here. Loam/roots/flint. Significantly better than the wtbs as soon as it got moist. Looking to try 29 on it though, just because I can.
A couple of cm of slop on top of a firm surface (ooerr missus!) is about the worst conditions for plus and fat tyres - you just slide all over the place.I got a set of 650b+ wheels for my 29er and just swap back and forth as required or the mood takes me. [b]I have to move the cassette over and realign brake calipers[/b] but that's about it, might need to add sealant if it's a long while since I've used the wheels
I have to realign the brake calipers when I swap wheelsets on my fat bike. One wheelset hope hubs and the other wheelset DT Swiss hubs.
Why can't they all be exactly the same with regard to disc spacing?
I run mine plus all year round, only one reason I just haven’t found an economical set of 29er wheels with boost compatibility,
But saying that it was loads of fun this morning on the plus bike, 4am heading to work no one about I could ride as I pleased almost carried on past Work!
Maxxis DHF 2.8s here noo problem at all in the mud /wet/dry
I think it’s also about how big you are. Plus might be unstable in the slop with low grip tyres and a light rider.
Take a 2.8 DHF and a 15 stone 6footer and you have a tyre in proportion to your rider
No big issues riding 3.0 tyres in the snow and ice tonight on the mnpr snowmageddon ride.
Ran last winter with the Rekons mine came with. Switched this winter to a DHR2 up front and what a difference. No need to mess around swapping wheels round.
Taking a cassette off and realigning brakes just to go for a ride seems a big faff!
TheGhost, I think you're onto something there 🙂
6'2" 15.4 stone on 2.8 Rekons and They've been better than expected so far! Still want some 29" wheels though after crimbo...
I'd like to try some chubby HR2s or Minions, even a Magic Mary.
Not gonna buy them though, as my current plus tyres are draggy enough already.
Taking a cassette off and realigning brakes just to go for a ride seems a big faff!
It might only be two to four times a year, no big deal. You need to move cassette otherwise you are likely to get a cassette - chain mismatch in wear.
I have just bought some 2.8 Magic Mary's in soft compound (orange) for my 909 hardtail.
Yes they are draggy, but the taller knobs seem to cut into the slop better than the stock HR2 and Rekon.
Will be using the Schwalbe's for winter them put the Maxxis back on for summer.
Like all wheel sizes it's as much to do with tread, tpi count and pressure.
You know how boats work, right?
Dhf/dhr 2.8 here. Loam/roots/flint. Significantly better than the wtbs as soon as it got moist. Looking to try 29 on it though, just because I can.
Interesting - might have a look at some alternate plus tyres then, I was still thinking they were all a bit cack (for my riding, I'd imagine well drained rocky places are probably still just fine)
I do have a 29 wheelset on another bike but its Maxle or some such oddness so can't just swap them out - but I got by on Ikons last year (before that bike got nicked), with low pressure, so I'm happy 29ers would work for me.
Don't plus size tyres end up weighing an absolute ton when covered in mud? it's all clay like stuff down here in the south, it's bad enough with narrow tyres.