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I know this will of been asked before but I just want to pick your brains if you don't mind.

I'm about to click buy on a 456 EVO II, currently I have a Pitch, medium with a 586 long top tube and a Unit, 17" frame with a 597 top tube.

I don't feel stretched out on the Unit neither do I feel cramped on the Pitch.

Do I go for 16" (592mm top tube) or 18" (603mm top tube).

I want the bike to cope with techie Lakes riding and fairly long rides.

I'm 5'9" on a tall day with a 30"/31" inside leg.

I'm swinging towards a 16".

I'll be using the Pitch as a donor if that makes any difference?

Thanks


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 7:34 pm
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I'm 5'9" and ride a medium Pitch. Also ride a 16" Ragley Mmmbop and used to have a 16" steel 456 if that's any help.


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 7:39 pm
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I'm 5'6" on an optimistic day, with about 29" inside leg and ride a 16" which feels the right size for me, lots of seat post out, albeit. 50mm stem. I can't fault the bike it's brilliant, the rider holds it back


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 7:42 pm
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Hi I ride a medium full sus 17" I think?
When buying a 456 I tried a mates 18" and was surprised how big it felt
Top tube long and too high.
From that I bought a 16" and it feels bang on with a 50mm stem
I'm 5'8 with 30" inside leg.
There a hoot btw.
Where are you I'm north lakes if you want try. It's not an evo tho.


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 7:43 pm
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16" for you.


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 7:46 pm
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Your height and I ride a 16 " Carbon 456 [ not evo]


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 7:46 pm
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Medium i'd say. My 20" was about cock on for me at 6'1 with 31" inside leg. That was with a 70mm stem and 740mm bars. Forks at 120mm and no stem spacers to keep the front low.

Try and compare reach on the bikes also as that can make a difference.


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 7:49 pm
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Thanks for the help, much appreciated.

The reach isn't on the web for the Pitch, but the Unit' has a much longer reach than the 456, but then its a totally different bike.

16" it will be I reckon.

NCB- you know me!- the bikes must give it away! I'll try and pop up for a sit on your 456, just don't want to miss out on the current price!


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 8:01 pm
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Im 5'9 almost 20 lol i had a 16. Wish i had got the 18 tho


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 8:44 pm
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16" will be fine, I'm 6'3" and have a 18" Ra4gley Mmmbop & a fair few 20" 456 bikes in steel, Ti & Carbon.


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 8:55 pm
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Had the origional Ti 456, 16"...

5` 10"+ a tiny bit :wink:, 33" inside leg 8O, rode a long post with an 80mm stem (which in heinsight may have been a tad long) but i was a absolute hoot to ride and i kinda miss it!!!


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 9:07 pm
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LOL yeah I do now! Do you want me to bring it in? 😀
Heres my old steel 456, good crack!

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Posted : 05/10/2014 9:11 pm
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16" hardtails look super bee. I wish i could fit on one.


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 9:18 pm
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16" hardtails look super bee. I wish i could fit on one.

Pun intended? 😉


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 9:24 pm
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NCB - if you wouldn't mind?

I am feeling a 16" is probably the best bet. I'd prefer to not have a more of seat post showing of possible though.


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 9:25 pm
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This is how much post I run, its not on the limit indicator and carbon!

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Posted : 05/10/2014 9:30 pm
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Pun intended?

It is now 😆

Breadcrumb, post smost. Who's looking at your seatpost? Perverts!


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 9:32 pm
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5ft 9in ride and usually a medium in most bikes including Spesh.16in 456 is perfect for me.


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 9:51 pm
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16" for sure imo...at 5' 9", I've a 16" Scandal 29er, 16" C456 & 16" inbred 853


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 10:02 pm
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Same height and inside leg as you and I have a 16" 456 EVO2. The only thing I am considering is getting a layback Seatpost cos it feels a little short on reach although that might be partly due to my other bike (an inbred slot dropout) having a longer reach. After riding the bike for a few minutes I tend not to notice it as much.


 
Posted : 05/10/2014 10:52 pm
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OP, I am the same height as you and after seeking advice here, went 16" Evo titanium. From my experience, that's where you need to be. Great bikes, BTW


 
Posted : 06/10/2014 4:12 am
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Euro- fair point!

After chucking a leg over NCBs 456 out has confirmed I need a 16".

Order placed for a Matt Raw one.

Thanks for the help.

C'mon On One, do me right and get my frame here quick sharp!


 
Posted : 06/10/2014 5:23 pm
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Just a follow up- Ordered late Monday afternoon and turned up Wednesday morning, good work by On-One and Yodel.

Had its first ride today, christened with the Borrowdale Bash, very impressed. Not what I'd describe as harsh by a long way. Just could do with a slightly shorter stem.

Looking forward to getting out on it again!


 
Posted : 11/10/2014 3:07 pm
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I'm 5' 9" and ride a 16 inch 45650b and rode a 16 inch 456-evo.

Easier to make a small frame larger with lay back posts, long stems etc than the other way round with a frame that's too large.


 
Posted : 11/10/2014 5:02 pm

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