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So which one then - whats the benefits of each?
For trail riding. Was thinking Nobby Nic's as they seem nice an light compared to WTB offerings and have proper knobs for mud.
Its been said a few time that 2.8 for proper riding and 3.0 for bimbling as the extra size folds over under pressure unless you run heavy tyres or pump them up.
You've got to ask yourself why Plus and then whether the tyres you're looking at even come up to size. I've got a FatBnimble 3.5 and a NN 3.0 on mine and they're the same size 🙂
I don't know where you've read this folding thing either. I've certainly never noticed it
Its been said a few time that 2.8 for proper riding and 3.0 for bimbling as the extra size folds over under pressure unless you run heavy tyres or pump them up.
Naaa, I'm 101kg in my shreddies and run 4" tyres at 10psi, no folding over, and I ride 'proper'*.
You will if you go too low, but you'll roll a 2" tyre off the rim at <10spi too.
*although last time i got into a pissing contest it turned out the rest of the guys debating were KOM/top 10 rather than my top 10% :-p
Would be on a Scraper i45 rim.
Why plus - I like riding hardtails on proper trails (Peak, Lakes, Wales etc) as well as trail centres because it's fun. But if plus can add a touch more comfort then great but I don't want a fat bike.
If you want a touch more comfort, get something with proper damping.
Instead of going back to the 90's. Why do you want bounce on a hardtail unless you need the contact patch for riding on beachers/bogs?
But if plus can add a touch more comfort then great but I don't want a fat bike.
Think carefully then, I don't actually rate my fat bike as being all that comfortable. A 4" tyre at 10psi has about as much give as a 2" tyre at 20psi, it's a bit softer than the usual ~25psi, but it's not night and day.
Grip and a complete absence of pinch flat, yup, 'float' yup if you need it, comfort I'm less so convinced.
It's not going to be fully rigid it will have front suspension.
A lot of the reviews I've read, such Enduro mag where they tested the Specialized Fuse in the Alps. They said it was a lot of fun, the big tyres had a lot of the rollabililty of 29er wheels and the extra girth of the tyre gave a 'magic carpet' type feeling that took out a lot of the trail buzz of smaller sized rocks and roots. But didn't flatten the trail like some full suspension bike could.
Think carefully then, I don't actually rate my fat bike as being all that comfortable. A 4" tyre at 10psi has about as much give as a 2" tyre at 20psi, it's a bit softer than the usual ~25psi, but it's not night and day.Grip and a complete absence of pinch flat, yup, 'float' yup if you need it, comfort I'm less so convinced.
And you can get grip with a more aggressive tread pattens or wider rims combined with lower pressures.
Float is useful for certain types of offroading though.
Basically, go full fat or go home.
Have you ridden a 27.5 plus bike Tom?
And you can get grip with a more aggressive tread pattens or wider rims combined with lower pressures.Float is useful for certain types of offroading though.
Basically, go full fat or go home.
No, there's room to compromise, otherwise we wouldn't have 4", 5" and now 3" tyre sizes.
I don't think they have anything like the rollover that a 29er does, apart from maybe very small stuff. That said through a small rocky section round me it felt like they didn't get bullied side to side as much as the 29er wheel does. This is a carbon light bikes wheel with specialized hill billy versus an i35 with 3 inch nobby nic, both on a banshee prime.
Comfort? Seriously? Possibly when you're bumbling along on the way up they'll smooth out some of the smaller rocks and roots but if you're putting them on a trail/enduroz hardtail where the main aim is going down then it's still a hardtail. Incidentally I've tried them in my hardtail to test this.
I'm still on the fence with them. There's aspects I like and bits I don't.
Comfort is the wrong word really. More take the edge off. Still expect to feel like a hardtail and I don't expect it to flatten the trail or make it easier (don't want it too either)