You don't need to be an 'investor' to invest in Singletrack: 6 days left: 95% of target - Find out more
While I'm cautious of asking (last time I asked people recommended high rollers and I really REALLY didn't get on with them - sold them on about 2 months in) - what's the "all rounder" tyre of the moment? I have really enjoyed fire XC pros but they roll laterally at lower pressures and I was hoping to switch to tubeless.
Not decided on rim width yet but I'm thinking around 25-30mm internal. Mostly riding scottish natural trails, looking for a non-draggy,highish volume pinchflat-free sort of tyre.
Looking at a bunch of online reviews it's hard to see any clear winners.
So many years since the old panaracer darts and ritchey megabites!
I use beaver 2.25 in the mud and ikon 2.35's in the dry.
I ran spesh purgatory on the rear and a spesh butcher up front on my asr5.. seemed good.
I'm getting on well with Maxxis Ignitors, can be had up to 2.35 in 26"
I also used to get on well with Fire XC Pros ( unfashionable though that was) and find the Ignitors to be a good all round alternative.
Spesh Butcher control front and Purgatory rear here. Purgatory is not grippy in slop but I leave it there as it rolls well.
Butcher is great. Leave it on for everything.
Both run tubeless.
baron 2.3 BC in the damp/mud
HR2 everything else at the moment.
Magic Mary front
Minion DHR 2 rear
Butcher/Purgatory Controls on all ours. 26, 29 and 650bs. Use them all year round in all conditions.
Beaver does look nice. I like the rounded profile - I find sharp edged tyres roll up onto the knobbles and then "fall off" them and wash out.
+1 for Marys. Try a Rock Razor on the back when it dries out, they're surprisingly good in all but the very worst slop.
DHR2 is very good front or rear. Never got on with the high roller (or HR2)
Another Butcher front. I've got a Baron which I should put on for the winter but I can't be bothered changing and the Butcher iznt terrible in the current sloppy conditions. I'm still running a Captain on the back but I don't they do them anymore.
Hans damf front (2.35 and trailstar flavour)
Purgatory rear
Seems to work well
Being a heavier chap I reckon I'll need to head towards a stiffer sidewall too. Some good options here though, thanks - was a bit hard to see where to start!
HR2 f&r for me, heavier than a lot of tyres but very good year-round, all condition tyres for me - much, better in the wet than original High Rollers without any noticeable extra drag in the dry, stiff too - I don't like too much tyre flex.
Anyone see much difference between the various compound types or is the difference minimal? OR is that tyre dependent?
A lot of these tyres are really quite heavy - the fire xc pros are only 600g each, most of these are coming in around 1Kg which is a fair old increase!
Beavers are ~700gms. EXO carcass seems pretty tough so far.
If you are riding natural trails that involve lots of jaggy rocks then anything less than 800g will be too flimsy. Ingnitor sidewalls are bad in that respect. Magic Mary (Trailstar)up front and Hans Dampf (Pacestar surprisingly fast rolling) on the rear. Got a Shorty on the front now and the grip is better than the MM in mud.
+1 for Hans Dampf, especially in Super Gravity flavour.
I'm also pleased with my Continental Mountain King 2.4 USTs
I agree with comments about weight - I won't touch anything less than 700/800 grams now after far too many holes in the sidewalls etc...
[I]Not decided on rim width yet but I'm thinking around 25-30mm internal. Mostly riding scottish natural trails, looking for a non-draggy,highish volume pinchflat-free sort of tyre.[/I]
I ride in the Scottish Borders and run HR2's on my FS (2.4 3C front and 2.4 60a rear, both on a FlowEX rim).
On my HT I've currently got Conti black chilli barons F&R, on Crests.
All tubeless - maybe you didn't get on with the HR's because you had the pressures too high?
On my second set of Bonty XR4's here - supple, grippier than the Ardents before them, less draggy than many others I rode. Seems to be a great fit n forget, replace when worn tyre...
If you want to stick with a pair of XC Pro's you can get them on Ebay,I bought a pair the other month.
I also use HR's but I see you don't like them.
I'm running Rocket Rons tubeless on my old hardtail,but it's not proper boggy where I ride with them.What terrain are you using them on?
I'm looking at mostly medium rocky or rooty, damp singletrack. I've got some mud tyres for real muddy days (good old mud-mad DH) and on dry days I'm not too bothered what I ride as I'm not fast enough to push most stuff to its limits.
I cope OK on the Fire XC, they feel kinda nice and bouyant and corner predictably but they don't cope with pressure dropping - they tend to roll off the rim with my 110kg behind them and I do have to be a bit delicate over rocky stuff (or run 40psi+). I may have run the HR too high a pressure, it was quite a while ago now and I was coming from tioga 2.3 DH tyres so I may be being a bit unkind when I got rid.
Some good and clear repeating comments here so I'll have a hunt for bargains and try to balance weight and volume. What's the worst that can happen eh?
Now to find a wheelset... 🙂
Whereabouts are you? I've got a bit of a tyre mountain in Edinburgh, you'd be welcome to take a few away to try... buy any you like or bring em back, bound to be something you like.
I can vouch for Hans Damph on the front - simply amazingness in slop. If you want truly octopus levels of griot on the front in slop and wet rocks, roots, etc - Maxxis Swampthing is the most incredibly grippy tyre I've ever used. Draggy as hell though.
As for the rear...? Who cares..? It's not like it really does anything anyway. I'd go for a Racing Ralph or an Ardent all year round. But I'm not very normal, probably.
Minion 2.5/2.3 DHF EXO front and Ardent 2.4/2.25 EXO rear.
Actual tyre sizes can be found here
http://www.reifenbreiten-datenbank.de/
If you don't like the HR2 up front already (I don't either) I'd be surprised if you liked the Minion DHR II up front either (I don't - even in 3C up front) but I'll +1 for:
Magic Mary TCS SS up front
and
Minion DHR II 3C EXO out back
Surprisingly fast rolling setup and they both clear slop really well. They were even very good in the snow we just had.
North Wales natural slop. Great all rounder tyres. Been riding them since "summer" as it never really dries out here.
I came off having Hans Dampf TCS all round. They were good until it got muddy because they clogged badly but excellent when it was icy.