[Closed] 22 t verses 24 t granny ring

Get a 26 🙂

It is noticeable but not massive

I have a Middleburn one for sale you can borrow it to see what you think
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All depends what you've got on the back.

If you had a 9 speed with biggest ring at the back being 34t for example then at 22t on the front you've got a ratio of 1.3 and at 24t it's 1.4. Not much in it.

Go 10 speed, 11-36 on the back then just MTFU and before you know it you'll end up with a 34 or 36t single on the front 😀

However - have a play with some of the gear ratio calculators, e.g. http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/

You can see what the ratios work out to be with different combinations. Note in Sheldon's one you may have to manually put in the cog sizes for the cassette if there's no preset for it.

Just about to buy a groupset that comes with a 24 x 32 low gear. I am used to a 22 x 32. Otherwise I can ask if I can have a 34 cassette.
Its a 10 speed slx, can a 22 be fitted later if needed?

24x32 is still a very low gear

Though if you're buying a new 10spd groupset (which it sounds like you might be) there's very little point in not buying an 11-36 cassette IMO. Otherwise all you're doing is closing the ratio gaps (which are close enough anyway) and duplicating more ratios.

FWIW a 26/38 double with an 11-36 cassette will give you pretty much the same overall range as a 24/32/42 with an 11-34 cassette! Triple ring chainsets are just a throwback now that 10spd is here to stay, pretty much totally pointless now!

I will wait 2 years for you to say the same about 10 now 11 is standard 😉

TBH if i was getting new I would get 10 speed but i see little point in changing at present as the benefit is not enough to justify the expense.

And in 2 years time it will be 11 as they need to think of some way of milking us of our money - not like I will b upgrading my XTR crank anytime soon unless they sell me this notion of more gears being better.

And in 2 years time it will be 11 as they need to think of some way of milking us of our money - not like I will b upgrading my XTR crank anytime soon unless they sell me this notion of more gears being better.

Fair enough.

It's not "more" gears that's important. It's more "useable" gears.

With 2x10 you're getting very nearly the same gear range as on a 3x9, but with 7 less gears. So there's a lot less duplicate ratios. 3x10 has even more duplicate ratios than 3x9, there's no more gear spread but more ratios.

That new SRAM 11 speed stuff is tempting, but for 2 things... The cost (it will get cheaper no doubt) and the proprietary freehub to take a 10T smallest cog. Seems silly to me! Instead of the 10-42 cassette for the proprietary hub they make an 11-42 cassette for use on a normal hub currently available. Would make more sense to me...

The changes in the speeds have just allowed me to progressively bin front rings.

Used to have 9 speed, something like 24/32/44 I think with probably 11-34 at the back. On 10 speed I've got 2x10, 26/39 with 11-36 and it's pretty much the same range that I actively use. Changing though for a 34t single 1x10 up front which gives middle of the road, losing a couple of ratios top and bottom, but I barely use those (already have 1x10 on my other bike with same set up and it's great for stuff I do). Key advantage - no more annoying front mech and can use a reliable 1x chain guide as I'm not convinced by 2x guides, especially twin-jockey based ones, at least going by the MRP one I've got that's falling apart and causing other problems.

11 speed is probably the natural step for most to go from 2x to 1x giving a similar range. Will leave it myself until it's mature.

You've got me thinking now. I guess a 32 x 36 1x10 might tick the box.
What's a good single chainset of a slx standard?
The main purpose of my purchase apart from getting rid of the creaks is to lose some weight.

What deadkenny says is spot on

As for chainsets... Buy the SLX, sell all 3 rings on the classifieds here, and replace with a dedicated 32T from someone like Blackspire or E13 etc. Best way to do it IMO.

And 32 up front with an 11-36 out back is pretty damned good for most everything IMO, as long as you can spin a bit for road work, and don't expect to sit and spin the whole time up the very steepest climbs. 32/36 is still less than 1:1 anyway though so is MUCH lower than a singlespeeder will be running!

Single 32 with 36 back is still going to be a fair bit harder work than a 22 granny with 34, and slightly more than a 24 with 34. All depends how much you rely on the lowest gear. Though I've found without the option of going to a the very lowest gear it's actually not that much harder and gets easy after a while.

Also I found whilst a really low granny is kind of easy to climb I was just spinning like crazy and not getting very far which is less efficient and doesn't do much for improving my climbing fitness.

Never use the big ring and the front mech picks up loads of crud so rarely shifts to granny without me hooking it out with a stick.
So this is the perfect time to sort that problem. Ignore all my granny ring questions the stw massive speak sense.

I changed my 2 x 10 to have a 26T front from 22T and I did feel the difference but I am poor uphill so need all the help I can get, recently been using the bike with 26T where as my 3x10 has a 22T I think from memory theory being if I go back on the other bike be easier.

That said spinning up the hill alongside a chap today with what looked like a 22T it was interesting to see the difference in RPM vs the two he was doing far more to get the same result, so it's possible more teeth less effort 🙂

Starting a new thread.

I love a 22T x 34 T on big climbs with a loaded bike / rucksack eg for fun I rode up helvellyn yesterday - I had my normal 22T up front with a 34T rear and I rode more of the up than I did last time with 'a try it out' 24t x 34T = but that my be down to fitness this time round... however the younger racer lads were using 26T / 29Tand they coped ok too...

I say a 22T is better than a 24 for me at least when totally knackered...or you hit mid 30s...

paul