[Closed] 2016 Stumpjumper.

Agree about the looks and not fussed about the tool/pump compartment thingymajig, but I do think they've addressed the few minor points on the previous models, i.e. why wouldn't you go for the evo, 20mm shorter chainstays and slacker.

Great spec too, be interested to see how the prices translate but otherwise...Yes please!

Reach for XL is 5mm longer than 2015 Stumpy Evo, stack is still higher than everest at 663!!! 170mm headtube, i think id get vertigo.

HT length on the XL is 145mm same as the 2015 model? 170 is on the XXL

Nice looking bike. I like the idea of the SWAT compartment but I can imagine that even with the cloth thing it'd probably rattle a bit.

Can someone please tell me why Specialized FSR bikes come with posts with masses of layback though? I remember Brant mentioning in a different thread where I asked the same question that straight posts were preferable for bikes with big wheels / short chainstays. 420mm chainstays with 25mm layback post; surely the weight would be too far over the rear when climbing seated?

Depends on the rest of the geo, layback posts work on FS bikes as it allows a steeper seat angle and shorter TT which helps with rear wheel clerance. On the other hand you now want a slacker SA and longer TT to allow for an inline dropper post as layback doesnt work on them as the added leverage causes them to bind (try dropping a reverb with the saddle salmmed back like a layback post.

Looks mint cacat decided if i want a 650b+, on the one hand i love my fat bike and 29er for different reasons (fun and different vs flat out fast) and this might be the nice middle, on the other it may be slower than the 29er and not as much fun as the fatty.

Won't be able to afford it any time soon anyway!

A glovebox?

Is this one of those innovations that 26 was holding them back from introducing?

Nice, well balanced looking bike, that wee compartment is a neat touch too.

Rusty, it's an enduro specific glove box. Obviously.

Bike looks lovely. Apart from the box, unconvinced by that. Oh, and the post, shit in comparison to a Reverb.

Loving the glove box, be a bugger when you accidentally break the door off though!!

Meh.

I'm waiting for the 2017 model that's out in December.

I've a 2014 Comp, so it's good to see that they've not completely redesigned the bike from the ground up.

The SWAT box thingy looks like a gimmick to me and I daresay it won't be an option on the alloy bikes. One thing that did annoy me on the 2014 bike was tyre clearance, so it's good to see that it appears to have been addressed.

Oh, and the post, shit in comparison to a Reverb.

I own both a Reverb and a Command Post. Honestly, I really like the Command Post, it's a doddle to maintain and set up, the settings work well and it's not overly heavy. My Reverb on the other hand has been a complete Gove to set up, has a fragile actuator button and is slower to rebound than the Spesh item.

sharkattack - Member
Meh.

I'm waiting for the 2017 model that's out in December.

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does the light stay on in the glovebox when you close it?

I think its quite nifty, just need a bladder in the top tube with a retractable hose coming out the topcap*

*can I patent that before specialized release their 2017 ****ER* range

*Toptube Water Access Tube for Enduro Racers

*polite applause at this thread*

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i likes the look of that!

Great spec too, be interested to see how the prices translate but otherwise...Yes please!

S Works - £6500
Expert - £4500
Elite - £3500
Comp carbon - £3000
Comp alloy - £2200

Same price regardless of 650b or 29 flavours

Well, that's cheaper than now - for the Comp at any rate.

I like it. Love the ****~'ter idea ^kimbers. You could put the bladder in the glove box and run the tube up the seat post ala stealth dropper and have the tube emerge between your legs thru the comfort channel hole in the body geo saddle....or it could used as a catheter to save stopping for a pee!!.

At least they changed to Shimano for the brakes. Now if they ditched the bullshit pressfit 30 BB id be tempted with one again even tho i snapped my 2013 EVO twice. It was that good.

warns74 - Member
HT length on the XL is 145mm same as the 2015 model? 170 is on the XXL
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My mistake, stack is 663mm though. Madness. At least it's not an issue for me, £3k for crap spec. Even if I could afford it, pass.

I really like the Stumpjumper range. Prices seem good and I really like the frame storage. I hate carrying stuff and the void in a frame is wasted space anyway. Wonder how they've layered the carbon in the DT to ensure strength.

I Really like the look of the elite but the spec doesn't warrant the price. The bikes are up on LL Bikes now too

that elite looks like it may just be my next bike....

The 6fatty version looks like Jo Burt has drawn it. I quite like that.

I wonder if you could fit a beer bottle in the pouch thing.

Why are they using a 46mm offset fork with a 67.5 degree head angle on the 29er? Surely 51mm would make more sense. Still, I guess they know what they are doing.

I love the look of the orange 29er and I quite like the idea of swat in general and the glove box in particular. I wouldn't get enough in there for an all day ride but would happily use it for a short ride, which most of mine are.

A 29er would give me a reason to not sell my 26er Stumpy that is almost perfect for me.

CaptainF

Oh, and the post, shit in comparison to a Reverb.

Newer Command Posts have infinite adjustment instead of set positions.

Have yet to try one of the newer Command Posts, but really didn't like the one I tried a while ago.

The remote lever was excellent, mind you.

I like the look of that, I think someone else said it first, but it'll be interesting to see what they do with the Enduro - it's a bit like SC with their Bronson and their Nomad, to me anyway, I don't really think there's enough of a gap between them to justify two bikes? It'll no doubt be a little slacker still, and be 160mm of even 170mm travel, but they'll always be 6" bikes to me - I've never been able to notice 10mm in travel difference.

More importantly are spesh going to make 29+ tyres as well as B+ ???

I don't really think there's enough of a gap between them to justify two bikes?

The current 650b Enduro has 165mm of travel so it's safe to assume it'll be 165mm at least. Definitely not enough of a difference to justify owning a Stumpjumper and an Enduro, but it's certainly a different bike with more travel, slacker angles and beefier frame.

I'd like to see them stretch out the tt on the Enduro a bit as the current bike feels just a tad on the short side for me (in medium).

Command post over a reverb every time for us. Running seven on our bikes including two IRs. Never had a problem with any of them until Abigales started to slowly loose air. Sent it back last week and it was returned today, repaired F O C. Everyone we know have had problems with reverbs, most of the time when they have been on holiday in the Alps.
Cant justify more bikes so will just stick with the existing Stumpjumpers and Enduros.

[i]A glovebox?[/i]

a secret compartment...Like the Millennium Falcon...

CaptainFlashheart - Member
Rusty, it's an enduro specific glove box. Obviously.

Noob, the Enduro will have the ENDURO specific glovebox, obvs.

#enduro

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Looks nice up close (elite 650b)

So how long before the deals on the old 2015 bikes appear? Its not as if the 2015 was a duffer.

Finally, a bike I can keep my sarnies in 🙂

That hatch is just outstanding. Unbelievable. It must be an April fool surely. What a load of absolute shite.

I mean really... words fail me [nearly]

really? i think the hatch is genius, shows where we are with carbon as well,

the less i have to carry in my jersey pockets the better

Any idea if and when they are releasing the 2016 Camber (Evo)?

I wonder if the glovebox will fit a ginsters...?

The rest of the range will be later in the year, only stumpjumpers on the early launch.

Personally I think it's a stupid gimmick.

Curtis Keene seems impressed going by this lol
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So how long before the deals on the old 2015 bikes appear? Its not as if the 2015 was a duffer.

It's a great bike but couple of things to watch out for. Any deals on 29er will probably go sharpish, Spesh stopped doing the XL while back so if that's a size anybody wants if you find one nab it!

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Beware with the 650b the front triangle is just the 29er with a spacer for the fork and a smaller rear triangle this in turn means it has an incredibly low BB which does occasionally mean pedal clip. Generally I don't have any problems but on a rutted bridleway for example navigating deep tractor tracks I have struggled a little where I don't on my hard tail!

Autosag is ace on the rear shock, so easy to setup and the tyres are best i've used! Loved the last six months of ownership and look forward to the dry spells ahead!

Apart from the front stem being slightly bit long everything else is spot on.

No choice in colour but hey ho...

I had a go on a 2016 Stumpy the weekend before last - my first go on a 29er of any kind. Compared to my '09 FSR...

Suspension felt nice and plush and the tyres were a lot more grippy than my half worn Captains.
Cockpit felt weirdly low and close when stationary but fine when moving. Bars 100mm wider than I'm used to.
Seemed to bash through stuff more easily - not sure if that's the wheels or the weight (four pounds more than my bike).
Rolled slightly better on fire roads, no faster on simple climbs, more effort to get round sharp corners but that's slightly offset by being able to roll over stuff more easily.
Brakes were grabby, but they were brand new and only low-spec Shimano.

The week after that I dusted off my hardtail (and measured the bars - 600mm !) and surprised myself how much faster it is. A lot. Unfair to compare FS & HT I know but it's over 11 pounds lighter and that is very very noticable. You don't need FS around here (Swinley).

So overall I'm not rushing out to buy a new 29er. Would be nice to try the S-Works version though...

I'm not usually one to criticise bikes for looking bland and corporate, but this does nothing for me at all.

And the press fit BB and custom shock mount gubbins is hardly going to bring me round.

I do applaud the ****box idea though. That's thinking outside the box, eh?

Satchm00, on the pinkbike review they said the 650b now has its own front triangle as opposed to your one that shared the 29er front end.

I like it, in aluminium that is. You don't get the silly glove box with the Alu version so a slack-ish 150mm FS that rides well and still has a dealer network would be my choice, I'd upgrade everything else as I went.

Only caveat, Spesh seem to be converging the Stumpjumper and Enduro like Lapierre did with the Spicy and Zesty, difficult to tell them apart now IMO.

deviant
Only caveat, Spesh seem to be converging the Stumpjumper and Enduro like Lapierre did with the Spicy and Zesty, difficult to tell them apart now IMO.

Not really.

Strangely I like it. Having owned an old M5 S-Works a good few years ago I seem to have a bit of a thing for Stumpys.
I may check one out if a local shop has one in. Not sure about wheels size, might make my mind up once I see one but heart says 29er for me ATM.

simondbarnes
Finally, a bike I can keep my sarnies in

Only if you get your lunch from here:

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(and you may only be able to fit a 6" Sub is you ride a small frame size ;-( )

Wonder when they'll start discounting the 2015 models then. Anyone know?

I spotted a new and reduced 2015 one on Pink Bike. Sold by Don-Skene-cycles based in Cardiff, they have them at £1999 down from £2500.

I had a look at their website and they have the new ones in stock too. The Elite spec looks nice but at 3.5k...ouch. Think I'd go for the 2016 comp for the change in geo. The low BB on the 2015 would get on my nerves.

Personally my finger has been hovering over a Rose Granite chief. They seem to get get good reviews and for under 1800 the spec is incredible and they have a UK rep which puts my mind at ease a bit.

It's a big jump isn't it between models. The trek remedy is the same. The remedy 8 is under 2.5 and the 9 is 3.5k

That hatch is just outstanding. Unbelievable. It must be an April fool surely. What a load of absolute shite.

I mean really... words fail me [nearly]

I think you are wrong - For years I've been in the camp that scoffs at mtbers and their desire to ride around with unnecessary massive bags full of crap. Fine for all day adventures, but trail centre loops and 1hr after work blasts - what's the point? My roadie routes means I've been happy with a bottle and either a seatpack or essentials in the back pocket of a roadie style jersey. This idea should be really popular - emergency kit in the 'glove box' and a bottle in the cage and say hello to non sweaty summer evening riding without the need for a roadie style jersey or an unsightly (to some) seatpack.

A nice use of of the advantages of composite layup.

I absolutely despise carrying a camel pack, I love this idea.

Does anyone know if the 6fattie will take 29er wheels? Its got 27.5 x 3.0 tyres as stock and seem to have plenty clearance.

Seems like the better option if so but then why sell/design a dedicated 29er? Purely to allow a 2x11 option rather than 1x11 on the 6fattie?

I was thinking that, could be a lot of fun and better future spares.

Still way too much money though.

Wonder it its a niche on one will explore. I still think the "next big thing" should really be manufacturers pushing better mid range bikes. £2.5k is not an entry level, the old Pitch proved a sucessfull design, where's its replacement!

Evans need to pull their finger out and get some if these in stock so I can buy one!

Wonder it its a niche on one will explore

On-One are down a designer. Check out [url= http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/gear-news/alpkits-new-bikes---first-pictures/14249.html ]Alpkit Bikes[/url] now, in association with a certain Mr Brant Shedfire Pact

The 6fattie will need boost hubs and chainset so not exactly the same as the 29er

Wonder it its a niche on one will explore
On-One are down a designer. Check out Alpkit Bikes now, in association with a certain Mr Brant Shedfire Pact

The 6fattie will need boost hubs and chainset so not exactly the same as the 29er

It'd be like having race and every day wheels, or a choice of tyres. I usualy have summer tyres on my light wheels and winter tyres on the heavier ones. The fatty would just get my 'swinley' tyre choice (something all round), and the 29er would get my 'chilterns' tyres (slicks in summmer mud tyres in winter).

Tried it out today 🙂

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Did anyone find out of the 650b Fattie would take a 29er wheel tyre?