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Can't wait til the TT's start and we can drag this thread back on topic... 🙄
[quote=grenosteve ]My view is some hay bales on the exits of those corners wouldn't have been a bad idea at all, considering the tightening compound corners and off camber. But hindsight is a great thing.
Except they were talking about those road edges in the previews. Or at least CB was - you certainly can't say that his POV is from hindsight. It's the duty of organisers of such events to imagine what might happen (I know when I organised a race including a bike leg I rode the intended route a couple of times, solely in order to try and work out where any hazards were and changed the route slightly as a result, and that was for a race involving ~30 people) - it's not like it was an isolated incident or a freak occurrence.
[quote=crazy-legs ]Can't wait til the TT's start and we can drag this thread back on topic...
Sorry - maybe we should get the mods to shut it for a couple of days and start a new separate thread for discussion of the dangers of the course and crashing? That or just let this one run and start a new thread for the TTs and track, as I don't think there's going to be much more discussion of the racing here.
Nibbles update, seems he's gonna be able to ride later in the season...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali-undergoes-successful-collarbone-surgery/
Wrong size water bottles that fell out of cages, moto feeds not numbered so we didn't know where we were in the race, and a lack of run-off / protection of hard street furniture.
Not highly professional organisation.
Having watched the facebook vid it is now clear to me that the problem is a lack of advanced Moto riders. They only had about 100, clearly should have had double that.
I reckon they're only there to build up tension... "ooh, is it the rider yet?"... "NOOOO,, it's just another motorbike"
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I've been posting on STW for many years (10+?) but I still find myself caught off-guard by the amount of keyboard expert bullshit bellendery posted by some people.
Quite.
Well, lets just say its a shame we've ended up talking about crashes as we were really treated to great racing on both days.
From a Team GB perspective i thought we did great too, with the mens team making some nice agressive racing, and Lizzie doing a good performance too.
Looking ahead, think we are shaping up for a good XC event. If this weekends WC is anything to go by, womens race in particular is wide open with at least 4 potential winners.
You win the insensitive and stupid prize for today
I'm a day late seeing this , can i still claim my prize 😆
Still don't think the crash was that bad to watch, certainly seen worse stuff broadcast on tv but I'm obviously not as sensitive as some people!
Anyway i don't do internet arguments as they just make you look stupid (quite a few people on here could do with taking note of that 😉 )
Everytime these topics go this way this picture always pops into my head 😆
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When the TdF was in Yorkshire there were many situations where the road ended with a dry stone wall, and no one complained
No there was definitely some bloke from giant threw his toys out the pram , oh and over the top of Stocksbridge where the tour went there were 12% grades that end in wall, wire fence, immovable object ,20 foot drop ,sheep.
The Australian Women's Team Pursuit squad crashed in practice yesterday doing a near race speed run. Fortunately they all seem OK, Melissa Hopkins was taken to hospital but released shortly afterwards.
Touch of wheels on Turn 3, the only rider to escape it was Annette Edmondson who was on the front.
Hope they're OK for Thursday, can always guarantee a great fight for the medals in Team Pursuit.
Were there any hay bales on turn three, sounds dangerous. 😉
No need. They build those velodromes with banked run off areas in the bends. 😉
Geraint Thomas called up for TT duties tomorrow.
In whose place?
One of those who crashed out in the road race.
Nibali, Porte? Spaces have just become available and GB moves up the order for spares.
van Vleuten seems to be on the mend thankfully
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Thats great news twice AvV and Thomas
Good
Well done BBC, talking about today's time trial with a graphic showing the MTB course 🙄
Men's will be between Tom Dumoulin and Chris Froome, I don't think anyone else will get close to them.
Women's - wouldn't even like to hazard a guess with that but the uncertainty of that will make it more interetsing to watch.
Also it's windy and rainy in Rio which will add a nice extra dimension. And possibly extra crashiness... 🙁
Not sure the conditions will be good for Emma - she'll get blown all over the place
Conditions look hooooorible...
Aero mudguards. That's what they need!
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Ah, the "Marginal Gains Cape"
They're riding like grannies on this first bit. I wonder if there will be carnage on the first descent?
Enjoying watching whilst shoving sausage rolls in to my face
Men's will be between Tom Dumoulin and Chris Froome
Dumoulin has a broken wrist doesn't he? That's got to be a problem on any climbs.
Shouldn't you be stuffing one of these in your face?
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Broken wrist in windy conditions as well, harder to keep control.
Tony Martin is in with a good chance, I'd say.
Surprise package Dennis to go for it, been setting up all year
That'll be for pudding
Emma definitely looking like a triathlete on that first corner 😈
Almost 3 weeks since Dumoulin's broken arm, and he was reportedly back riding within days, it's plausible it won't cause him that big a problem.
Looks slippery! I bet Brazil re-tarmacked some of the roads & put new markings down which probably doesn't help.
As much as I like taking the pee out of things I have to say it looks bloody hairy
What are the odds on Thomas not crashing today ?
Not taking that bet - he is getting something of a reputation
can someone post updates as I can't get coverage where I am..?
Pooley 30-odd seconds down at first check.
I'm thinking that as above, the conditions really aren't suiting her 🙁 - she isn't looking good technically and doubtless losing time on those bits.
Tara Whitten from Canada is leader on the road, Pooley in thrid behind Mooman-Paseo (I think that's the name)
[quote=nbt ][s]Tara Whitten from Canada[/s] Emma Longho Borghini is leader on the road
Van Dijk has just been off, exploring the undergrowth.
[quote=reggiegasket ]can someone post updates as I can't get coverage where I am..?
Crashes on the climb!
Van Dijk just rode off the road on the climb!? From the replay (I've no commentary on) it looked like one of her shoes unclipped
She just wasn't paying attention and tried to cut the corner, which found her on a bit of broken, cambered tarmac at the edge of the road.
Nah, she just got caught on dodgy surface and had a bit of a wobble
*EDIT* What Mikey said
Van dijk in fourth at the first timecheck despite her adventyre
Van Dijk has just been off, exploring the undergrowth.
If only there had been straw at the side of the road, she wouldn't have come off 
I've just replayed it, and she just rode off the edge of the road, not a technical problem
Pooley's probably regretting coming out of retirement for this one, so far at least.
(hoping for commentator's curse)
I see there's a few old mattresses taped to the lamp posts.
Looks more like Rochdale than Rio.
Armstrong takes the lead (at first check) - where's that form come from?
40s or so up on Pooley, who apparently lost more time to the second check - I think hoping for her to get a medal is now wildly optimistic
She's clearly had some of Hillary Briss' special stuff.
Looks more like Rochdale than Rio.
Geraint Thomas tweeted a picture of the beach earlier and said he felt more at home now cos it was exactly like Barry Island!
Weather is atrocious. I'd be surprised if Pooley is even inside top 10 by the end of this.
Pooley finishes in third 1.30 down on Tara Whitten, so she's only going to go down the rankings
Can someone explain why we had someone who wasn't good in the road race and arguably couldn't do enough to get a medal in the TT rather than our women's national TT champ?
van der Breggen 16 secs down at second timecheck
Looks like the Russian doper is going to win - sounds like Boardman is ignoring her
Van Dijk first by 3 secs, longo borghini 2nd, whitten down to third. Emma pooley well out of it 🙁
zabelinskaya takes first by 16.77. only four riders still out
actual doper, or just Russian?
Actual.
Real time served doper
Ah
[quote=atlaz ]Can someone explain why we had someone who wasn't good in the road race and arguably couldn't do enough to get a medal in the TT rather than our women's national TT champ?
How wasn't she good in the RR? The national TT champ wouldn't have ever got anywhere near the top on that course, whilst Emma stood a chance given her pedigree and capabilities.
van der breggen finishes second, 6 secs down
Did the UCI get the final call on her participation? Would have thought that should've been an easy call. 🙄
That podium gazebo looks grim in the weather,.....
Time served... heh
In July 2014 it was reported that Zabelinskaya had tested positive for octopamine at an international race in the spring.[6] In February 2016, she accepted an 18 month ban, which she already served and which expired in September 2015
Phew, clean rider wins
Can someone explain why we had someone who wasn't good in the road race and arguably couldn't do enough to get a medal in the TT rather than our women's national TT champ?
Emma was 4th in the British Cycling National TT Championships, about 40 seconds behind Hayley Simmonds. HS is a specialist TTer who would have been no good at all in the road race.
Claire Rose (2nd in the TT Champs) would have been a reaosnable shout, she's a good road racer but she's completely untested at that level - at least Emma Pooley is a former World TT Champion and an Olympic silver medallist in Beijing so out of everyone she was the best shot. And we only qualified 3 riders in the Women's Road / TT anyway so it didn't exactly leave a lot of choice...
Thank goodness for that.
Armstrong first by 5.55
Thank goodness for that.
exactly what i thought
Chapeau Armstrong. Not said that for a while 🙂