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Who has a 2016 canyon strive and have you had any issues with it or the shapeshifter? I am looking at this as my next bike. I spoke to canyon the other day and assured me the previous shapeshifter had been changed and the issues sorted.
hope its sorted mines due at the end of the month !
Mate has a 2015, had it over six months, loves it and no issues as far as I know. It's a good looking bike and very capable even in the xc mode, I think he rides it locally in that most of the time!
Which model of strive mike? When did you order it? You will have to let us know how you get on with it.
the 9race, wanted the fox suspension. ordered it over xmas
Check out the thread over on pinkbike, countless delays, misinformation from Canyon and huge issues with the shapeshifters.
I had an order placed for one back in October. Delivery was due to be two weeks after the order was placed. The most recent delivery date I got from them was the middle of April! Needless to say the order has been cancelled.
heff, the medium and small strive race in blue are in stock and the large was only a 2 week order time when i placed my order, all the problems from last year were related to the factory move and a new IT system. Ive spoken to them and they said deliveries are now being met although mine has been put back a week from what it originally said on the website.
We will see if they have improved !
Heff- was it the 2015 or 2016 strive you ordered in October?
Have a read,
[url= http://road.cc/content/news/174360-canyon-responds-storm-customer-criticism-over-late-orders ]Canyon problems[/url]
Interest read. I really hope they sort the issues they have.
I got a 9.0 race back in June and love it. I use the shapeshifter all the time with no issues so far. Did have a problem with the reverb and the rear wheel. Both were sorted quickly by the office in London although they do take a couple of days to repky to e mails.
An amzing bike at a great price....i say get one.
I know three folk who have the 2015 one and all have removed the Shapeshifter...
Tom. Is it an easy removal or is it a bodge job. I love the bike but the shapeshifter issues are causing me to have second thoughts.
Mikekay have you received your strive yet? Out of interest what size and frame colour did you order.
Ordered mine second week of December.
Despite what the website says, and at least 2 false projected despatch dates, Canyon don't actually seem to know when it will be getting sent out. Latest correspondence is suggesting 28th Feb to 3rd March of something similar as a despatch date. Not ideal but Just have to put up with it....not like you can get it anywhere else lol!
Which spec strive did you order and what colour frame neallyman?
No not turned up yet, it looks like Canyon are still ****ed up and telling lies.
It's a good job i'm not in a rush as it's now delayed 4 weeks.
Large in blue
I would get a medium in the team colours. It says from stock which I guess they have built ready to ship. Maybe!
Large in team colours
Gabbo, I'd be very surprised if it is actually in stock. The website said mines was at the point of order...
ye mines says in stock for the last few weeks, its all sales bull shit but if you want one theres nothing you can do.
all the reasons stated above were the reason I opted for trance instead of a spectral. I have 2 canyons, and had no issues with either, but ultimately you can usually pick up something of equivelent price and spec in the sales if you are put off by the delays.
Once it finally comes I'm sure it'll be worth the wait however..
Mike. Has your strive arrived? If no have you complained and got any sort of compo like a voucher?
Nope still not here, been on the phone 3 times, been on the chat thing 3 time, they just aren't bothered. It's a good job their bikes are cheap and good because their customer service is none existent.
The bike i'm waiting for has been on stock for 3weeks and on the express bikes list for 2 weeks yet mine is 4 weeks late. w****rs.
Have you paid for the bike? I am now in the same boat as I ordered a medium cf8 race in blue the other week. Probably stupid but I'll see how it goes.
I ordered one in October Deliver dates came and went, promises flew by and also they basically admitted that they had no idea when the bike would arrive - despite mailing me and telling me it was about to be dispatched.
I was just about willing to forgive this because I had heard that they were good at replacing broken shape shifters but then I heard that this season people had gone 4 months waiting for replacements and were making quotes like "the worst seasons riding in my life".
For me buying a bike is the start of your relationship with the company not the end and if I cannot count on them then I do not need this stress in my life. My previous bike was an Orange 5 and those guys are completely awesome when it comes to customer service.
Personally, I cancelled my order in December and bought [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cube-stereo-160-super-hpc-sl-27-5-bike-2015/rp-prod140234?gs=1&gclid=CI76jPu6hMsCFeUy0wod0xoAtw&gclsrc=aw.ds ]one of these[/url]. It's a steal at the price, rides like an absolute weapon and I know there is a good network of support and advice when I need it.
Good luck!
Had you paid for the bike ade?
No not paid yet
No mate. Luckily not. They say that you only pay when they dispatch the bike but I have since heard of people who cancelled and subsequently had their card debited and the bike arrive ages afterwards.
I also asked them to confirm in writing that the cancellation was confirmed, just in case.
I think I got let off lightly with some mild frustration.
I bought a cf8 in sept 15, shapeshifter is on it's way out, 2016 replacement on order, they've credited my canyon account with £75 to apologise for delay.
Had reverb replaced by uk service centre with a brand new one, prompt with no hassle.
Rear bearings in roam 40's had to be replaced but again a SRAM part so no fault of canyon, paid LBS to do em as thought it maybe a wear and tear argument and needed em done ASAP.
Worst case scenario I can see is that shapeshifter dies completely and u have to lock it into dh mode until it get replaced, which leaves u with a 160 travel bike with similar climbing abilities as any other.
I got mine delivered to germany when euro was good for£2600 delivered!
I've seen instructions on pinkbike from canyon on how to bleed the shapeshifter to lock it into dh mode so can't see why people have had bikes stood for months awaiting replacements.
I wouldn't recommend buying one unless you can do some maintainance yourself otherwise your relying on lbs to fix it.
I love mine, great bike for the money but be prepared to do some spannering if needed, same with all direct sales bikes I guess.
For those currently waiting on a strive, just noticed my card was debited 2 days ago so I'd imagine the bike is now on it's way. Exciting.
Keep us updated mate.
If there is an award for "we don't give a flying **** about customers" Canyon would win every time around ! I feel sorry for the UK Canyon staff who seem like a decent bunch but the top brass in Germany have the worst attitude towards customer service I experienced in over 25 years of buying all sorts of stuff from all over the planet.
They are soooo bad its difficult to put in to mere words their arrogance and the contempt they have for their customers.
I truly hope they go bust because companies with that attitude do not deserve to survive.
In the interests of balanced discussions, it would appear that Canyons after care service is ok, see the other Canyon thread. Where Canyon are uber bad is everything to do with buying a bike and delivering it on time which every other bike manufacturer seems to do in varying degrees of "better" From a business perspective Canyon completely baffle me, from a pre customer perspective they make my/your blood boil.
To those people with more patience than me, best of luck I hope it all comes good.
An update from myself. I ordered my strive cf 8.0 medium race on the 08 Feb 16. From then until now I have had some issues, mainly with the payment as due to the exchange rate they got less than expected and asked for another 156 euros. This was sorted as it was their error and i didn't need to pay. The order was then back on schedule. I utilised the chat service on the German site a lot and used Facebook messenger for canyon UK. Both worked and any other queries answered. I was told on Monday by the UK to ask again for a tracking number today if I didn't receive one. I thought this may be just keeping me happy but this morning I received an email with notification and a tracking number. So its taken 2 weeks and 3 days. Not sure why mine has been so quick but I'm happy. Maybe me always using chat with different representatives got them to check different things.
Just got my Tracking Number so should be with me next week, at last !
gabbo are you in the UK, if so how come you paid in euros ?
I've been waiting for a new shapeshifter since January on my 2015 strive. apparently they are getting a delivery of them in the next 10 days.
Bikeyoke are also doing a link for 50 euros so you can remove the shapeshifter totally.
In the interest of balance, I ordered parts for my 2011 Strive in September 2015. Eventually complained to CEO and even though that got things moving, only slowly and I finally got the last bits last week.In the interests of balanced discussions, it would appear that Canyons after care service is ok, see the other Canyon thread
That's a pity because I had issues with the Reverb shortly after I bought it and that was sorted really well, so I can only assume that they're far from fixing their issues. I wouldn't buy one until they can show all their issues sorted.
I think someone on Pinkbike said that Canyon UK now have the shapeshifter in stock, might be worth a chase up if you haven't got it yet.
crazy the amount of horror stories on the Pinkbike thread and how low long some have been waiting for a new SS 😯
Took delivery of a 2016 strive about a month ago, 3 days at Afan and a day at BPW, no issues with the SS yet. The 2016 version has apparently been redesigned.
I think someone on Pinkbike said that Canyon UK now have the shapeshifter in stock, might be worth a chase up if you haven't got it yet.
Just had a phone call from Mike at Canyon UK, my replacement 2016 shapeshifter unit is being despatched today, should be here by midweek.
awesome... 😛
awesome... 😛
hopefully mine very soon
Very nice, rode mine at Cwmcarn today, 60k and 2000m of climbing, did pedalhounds x3 in dh mode, the rest in xc, great bike.
ooh thats purdy....
just deciding between a spectral or strive atm.....dont know how much of a pig the strive will be for normal trail riding....
holy moly that hurts the eyes 😯
Lovely bike.
Need more spanners.
just deciding between a spectral or strive atm.....dont know how much of a pig the strive will be for normal trail riding....
Are you buying a bike for trail riding? The Strive, and any bike like it will do fine. But... You don't need 160mm of travel, it'll feel boring and bland in comparison to a trail bike.
The Spectral is very versatile, my mate rides his down the Enduro trails around the Tweed, and is pretty handy on it. Itd feel more fun at a trail centre.
A shorter travel bike would probably feel even more fun too. E.g. Whyte's T-130.
The only reason I ride a 160mm bike is for the geometry, as I ride steep stuff, and need the comfort a 65 degree head angle gives.
mainly trails tbh but i have a 130mm mega and in some places i ride it is all over the place and I could do with a bit more travel and slacker angles.......plus it could double as my mrs alps bike
trail bike would probably be the better option and the spectral looks ace but i cant help wondering if 160mm slackness would be more ace
Get a spectral and put an -2deg headset on it, i did that to a bronson and it transformed it.
The only reason I ride a 160mm bike is for the geometry, as I ride steep stuff, and need the comfort a 65 degree head angle gives.
Those of you with 650b bikes could also try swapping to a 26-inch rear wheel if further slackness is your goal.
Works for my 650b Trance, the standard bike has a 67 degree HA with 140mm forks, Giant offer it in SX guise with 160mm forks and a 66 degree HA, at this point i was stumped and considering anglesets but i saw on a yank forum about running a smaller rear wheel...drops the BB a bit and slackens out the front a bit more too, lovely...havent taken the phone-app angle thingy to it yet to see what it's given me.
Liteville have a similar ethos with their bikes although i believe theirs is based around rider size and bike size or something?
I have a strive cf race and a 29er stumpy, had the stumpy a while so when i got the strive I was impressed by how playfull it felt, 425mm chainstay compared to 455 on the 29er, also super comfy and climbs superb with the shapeshifter which really does change the bike completly making it feel super efficient, I could ride it all day.
So much more confidence inspiring on the steep stuff too.
The shapeshifter is awaiting replacement so i've lost some of the climb ability but its still ok.
Not sure how the 2016 shapeshifters will stand the test of time, but I'll buy a bikeyoke link and scrap it if it becomes a reoccurring problem, i'm willing to sacrifice some of the climb ability if I have too, the ss is really the icing on the cake.
I've owned a 130 mega275 with 160 forks on it and id say the strive climbs better in xc mode, a bit more bobby in dh mode but not a lot worse, if any, than the mega. Its a lot lighter too!
The only reason I ride a 160mm bike is for the geometry, as I ride steep stuff, and need the comfort a 65 degree head angle gives.
😆 , oh... you're being serious...in that case 🙄
[The shapeshifter is awaiting replacement so I've lost some of the climb ability but its still ok.]
I'm in the same boat.i presume you have bled the shapeshifter unit and its in permanent downhill mode.Have you had any problems with running it like that. I have a holiday booked and am a bit paranoid i havent got round to bleeding it yet and may take another bike
@mark rich, that's pretty much what i was hoping to hear....
mind made up
The only reason I ride a 160mm bike is for the geometry, as I ride steep stuff, and need the comfort a 65 degree head angle gives.
, oh... you're being serious...in that case
Don't understand your point.
A lot of people have bought sorted geometry bikes, but with more travel than they would prefer. The new breed of short travel bikes are starting to catch up and really offer a decent alternative. Whyte t130, kona process, evil following... Etc.
Given the choice of a but too much travel vs poor geometry, Id pick more travel any day.
That caveated with I still do uplift and ride DH trails as well as general steep local Tweed Enduro trails as 99% of my riding.
Back to the OP, the Strive sounds like a good compromise with the Shape shifter. But... I've seen a good amount of reports of it failing, and if you're buying it for the XC mode, then I'd be questioning the choice.
[The shapeshifter is awaiting replacement so I've lost some of the climb ability but its still ok.]I'm in the same boat.i presume you have bled the shapeshifter unit and its in permanent downhill mode.Have you had any problems with running it like that. I have a holiday booked and am a bit paranoid i havent got round to bleeding it yet and may take another bike
Mine is still working, stays in either mode but in xcmode it sinks about half towards dh mode so I'm climbing on it somewhere between the 2. I have to stop and lift back wheel up to engage xc mode also. I thought id leave it at that until replacement arrives.
I think I will buy a bike yoke link though for future, like u say when yr off on hols you don't want to faffing if it throws a wobbler the week before.
@mark rich, that's pretty much what i was hoping to hear....
mind made up
Im sure you'll like it, but as rickon says I wouldn't buy one for the shapeshifter, not sure how many fully functional strives will be knocking about in a few years, I can see the bike yoke links selling well!
Basically it just looses that extra climb/xc advantage, you still end up with a 160mm bike that climbs as good as any others out there.
Ive seen a couple of bike mag reviews where they thought canyon should make a strive without the fuss of the shapeshifter and save a bit of weight which is exactly what the bikeyoke does.
Have any strive owners out there with broken Shapeshifters done the trick recommended by canyon to lock the piston in DH mode.
Ie bleed to the system ?
Do I need to remove the SS to do this ?
Thanks
This worked for me: remove Shapeshifter, remove all air, you'll see a couple of tiny torx bolts on the back of the unit. Undo these and release any air that's got where it shouldn't be. Honestly can't remember if I pumped a bit of air back in to keep it locked, don't think I did.
OK cool. thanks.
