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Hi, first post so please accept my advance apology if this has only been asked a few hundred times already 😉 I've been looking at several bikes recently and have decided that Whyte appear to be an overal winning contender, originally I was looking at the 901 then the T129s but then after some thought decided the 650b would better suit my planned riding then after a brain wave ! I went and test ride a few and found that I'm too old to cope with a hard tail and that a full suspension model was the best way to go so then loved the T130s. And now after much debate I've spoken to a good salesman who now have made me look at the new 2015 works model which is on offer at £2550 atm. So in a nutshell what's the general opinion of Whyte ? For the money is this a no brainer ? Would people pay the extra and go for the works ? Or is the s model just as good ?
Thanks !
Picked up a T-130 Works this evening for 2399. Hope to take it out on a ride tomorrow. I was going to buy the T-130s at first but then i saw the Works model in a sale in a local(ish) bike shop so went for it. Basically the same frame but better forks, brakes, wheels, drivetrain. The wheel are amazingly light.
Basically the Works version has a 1 x 11 drivetrain over the S 2 x 10.
The Pikes are worth having over the Revs (very much so).
Better kit across the board.
So basically, if you have the money go for the Works, bear in mind the 1 x 11 will need a little more uumph to get up the hills...
Either way, a great bike.... enjoy.
Wow £2399 is a bargain, where was this ?
Anyone know any cheaper ones going lol
The works has a slightly different frame making the back end just that bit stiffer,iv got a t130s and i love it. i prefer the 10spd for those extra gears on real techy climbs. plus its cheaper to maintain in the long run.must admit the pikes feel a better fork than the revs though.
The spec changes and stiffer rear end thanks to the wider main pivot and 1x11 are well worth it IMO. Just depends no your budget really.
Where do you ride and how fit are you? The SCR cannot take a front mech so 1x is all you ever be able to run. So if you need a winch gear the plain S would, IMO, be the way to go.
Good question ! I'm not the fittest in all honesty but this will be my first bike for over 15 years so I'm guessing it's going to be an experience to say the least lol.
I'm not fully au fait with gearing yet as I'm literally a beginner but I'm looking to do woodland trails including minor downhill riding and some jumps etc
I reckon the T-130 is an excellent bike for the UK and all the travel the majority of ppl need, good choice. What puts me off the SCR (and all other similar designed frames) is the "1x only" option. I have no doubt that the SCR frames are excellent, especially going from feed back from friends & should be the best option.
BUT There no way on earth I'm buying into the 1x11 system that requires a £100+ cassette. I have tried it quickly, & agree it is very good, but simply £100+ for a consumable item is too much. I don't see the "one up" 10speed type systems (you buy a extra cog to fit as a replacement smallest gear on the cassette and dump one of the higher rings) as anything but a compromise that will wear out too far quickly compared to the rest of the drive train (so no saving). I have run a 1x10 system for a year and did cope with it but was doing more walking than I wanted (though I also got better a s the year progressed), and it made my knee click/hurt. I'm now back on a 2x10 system and much happier, & I think this is relevant to your "I'm too old to cope with a HT" comment
If your coming back after 15 yr, I would just get the T130, it will be more useful in the long term 1x11 is a bit limiting on an expensive new bike and can't be changed if you don't get on with it. The double chainset will be much more use to you, you can try out a single ring in the future on that and change back if it's not working out.
Could I not make it 2 ring at the front ? And then as I progress take it back to a single ?
No, the works is a slightly different frame and won't accept a front derailleur
Ok looks like it's the T130s then 🙂
I guess over time I could always upgrade it, any must do upgrades that anyone recommends on this bike ? Tyres ?
Can I just ask where you guys bought these so cheaply?
I saw mine at Banjo Cycles in Newbury, they were having a 15% sale on everything. It's ended now but they have a great offer at least once a month.
I reserved both whilst on offer to give me time to decide which one to go for without loosing the discount !
If the tyres are anything like the T129 WTB tyre, I'd leave em be as I thought them great (& WTB tyres are getting good reviews generally), unless you want a more mud specific tyre to match your location. TBH I'd not worry about upgrading anything, just get it and ride, when stuff wears out or is broken, look at newer/better/shinier stuff then.
I think I even saw a post on here about a guy selling a 3 month old T130 Scr Works for £2.2k ono
If it's as clean as he says, sounds like a good price !
If your near SE London or north Kent i can give the name of a very good bike shop to get that deal. So pleased with the Works model.
[i]BUT There no way on earth I'm buying into the 1x11 system that requires a £100+ cassette. I have tried it quickly, & agree it is very good, but simply £100+ for a consumable item is too much. [/i]
Nearer £200...
I know but if I wrote £200, some smart arse would appear saying "can get them for £188" or the like..
What kind of deals are going around on the T130s??
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Try before you buy I,m only 5,10 and found the medium far to small so went for a large with a 60mm stem instead of the 80. Tyres on the bike were unsuitable for the Lakes so the shop sold me some other tyres at cost!
Check bike over as i,ve had a to long chain that has caused shifting issues and eventually knackered a rear mech which has now been changed! Also got a sticky reverb lever works fine but needs sorting have also changed the wheels has I prefer Hopes hubs!
11 speed cassettes will hopefully get cheaper. I did think about this but went for the SCR in the end as i can always switch to a 10 speed setup if i need to and sell the 11 speed kit. Not bothered about the drop in range. The shop has the S on display and the orange looks amazing.
I went for a small as I'm 5ft5 with short legs. Feels great for me.
I've seen the 2015 T130S model on sale for £1870 but that's the best deal that I have come across to date. This was at Banjo Cycles in Newbury, no affiliation at all but I'm very happy with their service and advice.
Hi OP,
If you have a word with John in Banjo Cycles he'll let you try his own SCR as they use it as a demo, it'll give you an idea as to whether the 1*11 is right for you. FWIW I ride around the Newbury area a lot and find 1 by fine but it's a case of each to their own.
I've had zero issues with 1x11 gearing. Even that really steep part of Bike Park Wales beast of burden fireroad is fine.
Tell you what, I took the T130 works to Bike Park Wales for the first time last weekend. Was worried I may have lusted after the G150 in place of it, but the T130 coped admirably. Flew up the climb significantly faster that mates on longer travel bikes, but was right up there on the descents too. The tabletops, rock steps and undulations of Sixtapod really showed off the playful, poppy nature of the bike. But the stiff, supportive frame and suspension easily dispatched the rougher red runs too. On the tighter, twistier parts of the trails it was a riot as it's that much more agile/snappy than longer, slacker bikes. Can't wait to go back there!
After being out the bike scene since 2012 I've just got myself a Large (I'm 5'11") T130s. Before that in 2012 I had the Yeti 575 which I thought was an amazing bike and really set a new benchmark for me. However, I must say that after changing the stock bar and stem to Renthal, this T130 is just as good as the Yeti was for alot less money, obviously the spec isn't quite up to the XT of the 575, but it seems to work well so far and coming with a stealth reverb as standard is a huge bonus for the T130s.
Cant wait to get out at Cannock to thrash its pants off.
I can't wait to ride mine this weekend. Just not sure i wanna take out in swamp like conditions straight away.
"I can't wait to ride mine this weekend. Just not sure i wanna take out in swamp like conditions straight away"
I can recommend the mucky nutz face fender xl, fits perfect on the swingarms protecting the front mech and rear shock.
@dvowles82 - Just standard Fatbar Lite width, think its 740mm with a Renthal Apex 70mm Stem. Feels spot on. Im 5'11" on a large.
This bike feels just like my old 2012 Yeti 575 yet the T130s feels a bit more agile even with the 650b wheels, also this is over £1000 less. Great bike for anyone who is thinking of getting one, you wont be disappointed one bit.
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Very happy with my T-130 Works only thing I don't like is the stem which I think is a bit ugly, was thinking of a Fatbar Lite, Renthal Apex combo and as it's looks great on the T-130s above I'm going to go for it.
Go for it, they do look great. I agree, the OEM stem isnt the nicest looking around.
The Renthal Apex stem is ridiculously light too.
Definitely looks nice there were the renthal! Do you think you could have got away with a 50mm stem? I am torn. Have a renthal apex 50mm (unopened), but even at 5'10", I'm thinking it might be too short in reach and 60mm may be the way to go. 70mm is a touch long. Only snag is that I can't really try the 50mm without opening box, installing and riding with it. So won't able to change it if I do that.
It's a tough call, dependent really on arm length etc etc. Personally, if you're unsure error on the side of caution and go with a 60mm stem. Im finding the 70mm is fine for me, I reckon I could have gone 60 which I may do some point but for now Ill stick to the 70 and see how I get on for a few months.
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Looking good!
Andy, do you have a link for the stem and bars that you bought ?
Really like them, I'm 6ft 4" so am I right in assuming because I have a long reach I would better suit a 50mm stem ?
Also what width bars do you have ?
Love my T130 Works, changed the stem and bar to an Easton Haven combo (carbon bar). Run the wheels tubeless having changed the rear Maxxis Ardent 'race' tyre to a proper one!
When you say proper what did you choose ?
Very happy with my T130SCR.
Changed bar and stem to Renthall (Fat Bar Lite and 60mm stem) and swapped the rear Ardent Race for a standard Ardent.
As above, swapped the Ardent race for a standard one. The race version is for dry hard pack by the looks of it, not winter gloop.
Just picked up a T130S built up with a Pike reduced to 140mm.
Still in the tweaking phase but loving it so far.
Yes, the Works would have made financial sense initially but being old & fat I decided the 2x10 setup was a better bet for me.
I've got a 50mm On-One stem which I might try and then decide on either a 50/60/70mm Apex.
Also posted this in another thread:
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Fitted a Shorty to the front of my Whyte T-130 Works yesterday, swapped the front Ardent to the back. Seems to now have loads of front end grip, due to injured neck/shoulder I wasn't exactly pushing it really hard but I could feel the difference on some local loose/leafy singletrack.
Only issues are it made a horrible noise with the front mudhugger mudguard and it's a bit buzzy on the road. TBO my old Trailrackers on the HT are just as noisy and not as grippy but that's probably because there 26" so totally obsolete
How do the 130s ride, a mag review says that the rear shock is quite harsh?
Which mag is that?
Anything but harsh in my opinion!
As above mine is nice and plush!
Good to hear thought I'd read it in WMB or MBR about it being a bit harsh when not going full tilt.
I'm still very new to riding but so far I can't really fault my T130s except possibly for the rear tyre not being as good as I would have liked especially for grip in mud, suspension wise though I can't fault it at all.
@jammin34 the tyres on the T130s are described as 'fast rolling' so they're really summer tyres and not going to be great in mud. HTH
Jammin, you 6'4" on a large? As your reach is longer, you'd need a longer stem, not shorter (all things being equal). I think 50mm will be way too cramped unless you have short arms.
One thing I'm considering is getting the Thomson carbon 750mm bars. they have only 6 degrees backsweep, which will increase reach and therefore should make the 50mm stem do able. With the standard whyte bars I don't think I'll be comfortable on stems below 60mm.
Oh ok that makes more sense 🙂 I do have a long reach so it does sound better that I can increase the distance by increasing the stem size, cheers.
I do like the rental bars and stem but are they worth the money ? Or is there others out there worth considering too ?
Good review posted on whyte website of the T130 by Australian Mountain bike magazine.
If anyones interested, I am selling my renthal bars and stem together, which can be seen on my pic on this thread, decided I Want to go carbon LOL....
possibly what size stem? and how much!
The stem is the 70mm one. I could split if needed though but ideally would rather shift the 2 together. £90 for both
Decided that 50mm stem is gonna be just a touch short. Had considered a 60mm apex stem, but have compromised and ordered an Easton Haven 55mm.
Bars will be ordered soon, either renthal 740/780 or Thomson 750.
Anyone going for properly wide at 780?
I'm getting on quite well with the stock bars and stem (70mm) on the SCR. Thinking about loosing the bashguard but will want to replace the crank spider too to make it neater.
Just got some Easton Haven 35 carbon bars to try out on my T130s. Will be interesting to see how going up to 35mm changes the ride, if at all.
Mjsmke- I too was thinking about removing the bash guard. Weird it's on the t130 but not the g150! does it serve any purpose (like keeping the chain secure) other than protection against stray rocks?
I don't think it helps the chain stay on. I get no chain clatter at all so it seems to stay on the chainring well enough. It'll protect the chain from rocks but I'm more likely to hit the ring on a fallen tree log or stump.
Going back to my T130s, changed bar/stem combo to Easton Haven carbon 35.
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Sweet. Looks much better in black than the previous gold I think.
Recently installed an Easton Haven 55mm stem. Only taken it on one ride so far but definitely an Improvement from stock 70mm. More responsive and slightly more planted on descents. Reach absolutely fine when climbing (with seat up) too.
Also ordered a Thomson 750mm carbon bar, but it's arrived and has a mere 6° backsweep. holding it next to whyte bars shows the bar ends 2cm further forward! I'd ordered it as feared 55mm stem may reduce reach too much (it doesn't) so probably going to return it for a more comfortable shape.
Also ordered a Thomson 750mm carbon bar, but it's arrived and has a mere 6° backsweep. holding it next to whyte bars shows the bar ends 2cm further forward! I'd ordered it as feared 55mm stem may reduce reach too much (it doesn't) so probably going to return it for a more comfortable shape.
Bear in mind that effective stem length is what matters, which is your stem length minus the bar backsweep. So a 55mm stem with bars with 2cm less backsweep will feel like a longer stem (in terms of reach and steering feel) than a 70mm stem with the old bars!
Agreed dvowles, the black does look better than the renthal colour way.
I was concerned the 9' back-sweep on the eastons would be too much for me as the renthals were a lot less, but the eastons feel great. It's odd cos the sweep is the same as the stock bars but they felt way more than eastons 9'.
I stuck with the 70mm stem length and I found on climbs, the front just starts to lift otherwise of have gone down to a 50mm. Feels right as it is for me now anyway.
Also, how are people finding the SRAM DB5 brakes? Tempted to swap them out for an SLX set.
Anyone had any issues with chips in the paintwork? Have noticed a very small dot of a chip that is on my T130S! Hardly noticable i know but to me its there. Anyone ever taken back a new bike under warrenty because of this. Or can i just try and get a qucik fix to it myself.
"According to ATB website:-
This limited warranty is subject to the following conditions:
1.The bike must be supplied fully assembled from an official dealer’s premises.
2.The instructions for use, maintenance and cleaning of the frame must be followed and all usual precautions to protect the frame from the elements must be taken at all times as the frame may suffer damage if it is neglected or not properly maintained and cleaned
3.Normal wear and tear, crash damage or accidental damage is excluded from this warranty
4.This warranty will not apply to frames which have been improperly assembled; or modified; or have had parts or accessories fitted which are not compatible with the frame.
5.Repainting or re-lacquering a metal frame will invalidate the warranty where the process involves heating the frame to over 180 Celsius. Repainting or re-lacquering a carbon frame will invalidate this warranty altogether.
6.This warranty will not apply frames used for racing, jumping, trick riding or any other non standard use
7.This warranty does not include any liability for indirect or consequential loss or damage and such is expressly excluded
8.This warranty does not cover labour charges incurred in changing over parts or the cost of carriage
9.Claims under this warranty must be reported in writing by the first registered owner to ATB Sales Ltd and the frame delivered to one of its authorised dealers within the period of this warranty
10.Whyte Bikes decline all responsibility for damages to people, animals or objects due to the use of this product
Bikes get scratched. There's nothing more depressing than a nice bike with pristine paintwork.
You want to make a warranty claim for a tiny chip in the paint? You're having a laugh right? You want to just get out and ride more and spend less time obsessing over stem lengths and colour co-ordination.
dan2406
A riding pal has just had his T129 frame replaced as he had paint 'lifting'.
Take it back to the shop and let them take a look.
That's pretty extreme! Bikes get dinged and chipped, just the way it is. I like a few battle scars on my bikes!
Anyone got a pair of original bars from their whyte 130 they no longer need fancy a pair on a bike I,m building up on the cheap .Would be nice to have the same set of bars on my fat bike
Rich
Hi Rich
I'm about to swap out my original bars from my T-130 Works for a set of Renthals. Will also be swapping out the original Whyte 70mm stem if you're interested it that?
I'd be open to an offer on either/both 🙂
sorted for a stem only need the bars £10 plus postage for the bars!
Rich
Ok ok.. Maybe I'm being abit OTT over a small chip. Out tonight and it's covered in mud so don't notice it. All good. Must say it's definately best full suss I've ever been on. Just need some spring sunshine now
Review of the T130s here. Gets a 5 stars from me. Not sure about the tyres but they will do for now. Fast rolling on hard surfaces but when it gets sticky they clog up big time. Also had to raise the seat up a few inches to feel right. Could ride it all day. 🙂
IF you've had no luck I also have mint unused OEM T130s Bar/stem combo Id do on the cheap. Send me an offer if interested.
@postierich £10 seems quite low for the bars will either keep them as spares or maybe post on 'For Sale' at some point
Well, the T130s has left the building to make way for something else.. Just wasn't getting to grips with the Whyte as much as I'd have thought.
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