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I'm about to convert my Genesis Fortitude SS to 1x9 or 1x10 setup. I'd like to use Problem Solvers Mech Hanger.

- Is it worth to use 1x9? It's cheaper and I'll miss only the 36t cog...
- Is there any option to avoid chain keepers? (Any other than SRAM XX1... 🙂 )If there isn't which chain keeper do you recommend for XC/marathon?
- Which derailleur and why? Shimano Zee? XT? Sram?

Thanks in advance!


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 5:28 pm
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I would recommend 1x10. Better gear range so less compromised ratios and have simple option of adding 40T big sprocket too. Narrow wides are best at retaining chain!


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 5:44 pm
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Also, what are you doing about cable guides?


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 5:45 pm
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Go 1x10, that way you can use a clutch mech which, combined with a n/w c/ring, will give you all the chain retention benefits of XX1

Plus, 10 is 1 betterer than 9.


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 5:50 pm
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[b]jamj1974[/b] -

Also, what are you doing about cable guides?

I think I'd use full-length cable house...

[b]tomhoward[/b] -

a clutch mech which, combined with a n/w c/ring

What is your suggestion?


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 5:58 pm
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I ran 1x9 for ages. I used a 12-36 cassette so only missed the 11 tooth of the 10 speed. In Wales this was the better way round I think! I now run 1x10 but use an 11-42 cassette.


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 6:04 pm
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What is your suggestion?

tbh the clutches work as well as each other, so it's down to personal preference on the way they shift. I use SRAM (as im 1x11) but have ridden Shimano and prefer the action of SRAM (slightly more weight to it than Shimano)

So pick a side, then the model that suits your budget really!

Edit, on the C/ring, ive had no issues with the sram x-sync that came with my cranks (not sure about after market availabilty for other mfrs cranks though?) and a raceface N/W. (this includes a 2 weeks dh holiday and I've never dropped a chain using either of them)


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 6:10 pm
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[b]tomhoward [/b] -

So pick a side, then the model that suits your budget really!

I have a complete 2x9 setup with XO gripshifter and XO rear mech with medium cage . Is that possible to use the mech in a 10speed system... ?


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 6:22 pm
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Not sure but I have my doubts. I'll have to defer to others on that on. Though you still wouldn't have the clutch if you used it.


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 6:49 pm
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No to using 9 speed Sram with a 10 speed system. You can use any front mech with your left hand shifter but the rear mech and right hand shifter are specific for 9 speed and will only work with SRAM stuff too.


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 7:01 pm
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But you can use a 10 speed Shimano clutch mech with your 9 speed SRAM shifter, as luck would have it they work 😉


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 7:22 pm
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[b]iffoverload[/b] -

you can use a 10 speed Shimano clutch mech with your 9 speed SRAM shifter

Okay... but why should i do this? 🙂 I've 9spd mech. 😀


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 8:16 pm
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OK, thought you were interested in a clutch mech, you mentioned avoiding chain devices in your OP,

your 9 speed cass and shifter would work with it so its a cheap way to get it and if you go decide to go 10 sp later (when your cassette is worn out) you only need a shifter.


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 8:34 pm
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I think I got some fairly neat M-Part self adhesive cable guides for full outer runs and they have worked fine for my dropper cable.


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 8:39 pm
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[b]iffoverload[/b] -

thought you were interested in a clutch mech, you mentioned avoiding chain devices

Oh, I've just realised the advantages of 'clutch mech"... 🙂

Does I need a 10spd Shimano clutch mech to work with 9spd SRAM shifter?


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 8:50 pm
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Yes, but Iirc it's not plug and play, you'll need to fashion a 6mm spacer for the mech, to deal with the cable pull I think. There's threads about it on here, and elsewere on the web.


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 9:09 pm
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here you go

http://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=148662

I have tried it with and without, there is not a big difference


 
Posted : 07/10/2014 9:23 pm

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