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12sp Cassette on older Shimano hub - yay or nay??

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Tempted to update my aged singlespeed Orange R8 to 1x12 using the SLX bargain on Merlin at the moment.

I'm away from the bike / home at the moment but the rear wheel is a Shimano XT circa 2013.

Will a modern Shimano 12sp cassette fit or am I thinking wishfully?

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Posted : 04/05/2024 12:55 pm
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No go. To get 12s to fit, Shimano invented MicroSpline. 11 is your max on HyperGlide, as per older XT.

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 12:58 pm
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Balls! Thanks for saving me the hassle though.....

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 1:01 pm
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I think that there are other 12speed cassettes that will fit though?

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 1:06 pm
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Yes you can fit a 12 speed cassette to a 11 speed freehub

You need a Sram SX or NX 12 speed cassette, these still use Shimano's hyperglide freehub

You can also use Brand X 12 speed cassette's (looks like a Shimano cassette) and loads of other brands 12 speed cassette's just not Shimano's

The Sram ones are 11-50 the Brand X are 11-50 and 11-52

Shimano 12 speed road cassette's are hyperglide so work fine on a 11 speed freehub, the ratios are closer together but you wont get a large gear like a 50T

https://uk.redbrain.shop/p/00710845818011?utm_source=google&utm_medium=css_organic

https://www.highonbikes.com/products/brand-x-12-speed-mountain-bike-cassette-hg-fitting

https://www.merlincycles.com/sram-sx-pg-1210-mtb-cassette-12-speed-280318.html

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 1:14 pm
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Shimano roadie stuff will fit, I’ve got

https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-105-r7100-cassette-12-speed-271625.html

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 1:17 pm
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12sp

Interesting.... So, would the above basket work? I'm not sure on what chain length to go for.

Thanks for the replies so far.

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 1:29 pm
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The above will work. Check how shimano measure 12sp chain length

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 1:51 pm
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Also i think you may need a different tooth profile 12sp chainring?

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 1:52 pm
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Nah, chainrings will work with 10-11 & 12 speed chains

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 2:00 pm
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Cheers, XT shift is out of stock for standard bar mount. Deore mech is 11sp, rather than 12sp?

Thanks for confirmation my basket will work - good tip on the cassette though.

Don't think my mild OCD could cope with a black and silver chain! One or the other...

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 2:19 pm
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Basket would work.

Sunrace also do 12speed cassettes that fit on a Shimano HG (11speed/oldskool) freehub.

XT shifters ARE nicer!

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 2:25 pm
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Looks like I should be shopping around for XT shifter then!

Will do.

Thanks for the help all.

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 2:32 pm
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Deore mech is 11sp, rather than 12sp

They're the same and interchangeable. Just marketing.

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 3:41 pm
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Is that so?!? Well, everyday is a school day.

 
Posted : 04/05/2024 3:58 pm