[Closed] 11 speed XT & narrow wide chainring issue

I just fitted 11speed Xtr, and running the shimano 11 speed chain with a raceface Narrowide, seems to be OK so far, I have raceface turbine cranks if it makes a difference.

Was quite lucky with setup to be honest, all went on easily and worked pretty much without any serious fettling. Just a couple of extra links in the chain making it a little longer than my 10 speed setup.

The interior measurement of chains is the same between 9/10/11 speed, it's the outside dimensions that have shrunk between each change. As such, the NW should work. Could be that you just have a duff ring. Have you threaded the chain correctly around the rear mech?

Could be chain too short or chain line off. Some rings are initially a little noisy for a couple of rides anyway until they bed in. There will be more noise as there is more material from the chainring in contact with the chain.

Have you fitted the links around the narrow/wide teeth appropriately>?

there will be a bit of noise because of the chain angle when in certain gogs.

Have you fitted the links around the narrow/wide teeth appropriately>?

That is impossible to do.

I wouldn't bet on it.

No help... But I'm running exactly the same set up, Saint cranks, works (oval) nw chain ring, xt 11spd, currently working perfectly

Thanks for the replies, it seems more set up error than incompatibility so should be cheaper to sort. The ring is already used. I've had it as part of a 10 speed set up for a while where it was working fine and whilst it shows sign of wear it appears to have loads of life left in it.

Ive got m8000 cassette, sram 1030 chain. E13 narrow wide ring in the middle position on some old shimano cranks. Works fine. Not noisy at all so maybe chainline or tight chain or just unlucky with chain / chainring combination would be my guess

Is the chainring new too? I had the same issue but it was because the chainring was slightly worn. I just turned it around and it's been silent since.

I would go with Krytons suggestion . You do know that the wide teeth go between the outer chain links and the narrow teeth fit between the inner chain links .

Chain on the right way round? They are directional.

Otherwise, probably chain line, if you're getting the noise higher up the cassette, look at spacing the ring a tad inboard perhaps...

It's most likely just a used ring on a new chain.

Try a new ring, or just flip the current one round.

Cookeaa, directional chains refer to machining on the edges of the inner plate to enhance shifting and should have no impact on how it interacts with front ring.

Probably new chain old ring grinding. I've put my BB spacer on the wrong side on porpoise, chainline better on larger cogs. Got an old works ring I put on wrong way after it started hooking. was fine so try flipping it round.

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I would go with Krytons suggestion . You do know that the wide teeth go between the outer chain links and the narrow teeth fit between the inner chain links

Seriously, this is a joke right? please dont make me pop outside to check mine

Have you fitted the links around the narrow/wide teeth appropriately>?

That is impossible to do.

I wouldn't bet on it.

You wouldn't bet on it?
Have you seen what happens when you try to put the chain on wrong?
It just skips the ring and drops into the correct position.
I have a Works ring with XT 11 and it was very noisy to start with but has got better with time.
Mrs stu has the same setup fitted at the same time with a different NW ring and it's been almost silent from the off.

All sorted now.

The solution is in this thread but after a bout of cockwomblery I'll be staying embarrassingly quiet about what it was. Next ride should be a lot smoother now.

Cheers all!

Hahahahahaha, chain on wrong way wasn't it.

What've you had?

Seriously, this is a joke right? please dont make me pop outside to check mine

No joke .

OP you really can't leave us hanging like that .

Sorry that sounds harsh, wasn't meant to.

We all remember when I routed my chain through my rear mech incorrectly. 🙂

It wasn't routed incorrectly, it wasn't routed through it at all. 😛

OP - You had the chain going in front of that little metal pin on the rear mech rather than behind it?

I am just pleased with the 'cockwomblery' word. I shall use it in conversation in future.

And that you fixed your issue, op. Obvs.

XT M8000 here, and same issues as OP. Mech, cassette, chain, shifter and ring were all new. I'm pretty happy with the chain length so not sure what to think.

Until recently I was running X0 10 speed which was a dream, and it ran absolutely silent.

I'm putting mine down to having tighter tolerances with 11 speed, and the fact that XT isn't as refined as X0.

I have the same issue, however I couldn't fit the narrow plates on the wide teeth. Looks impossible from where I'm standing.
(OneUp ring, Ultegra chain)

Odd number o chainlinks on an even number tooth chainring, basically once per revolution there's a fat tooth trying to get in a narrow link

Go and count the links

😆

Brilliant, keep them coming - but only after you describe how you get an odd number of chainlinks and how you join the chain

Unless you've got a half-link in there, that's not possible.

Odd number o chainlinks on an even number tooth chainring,

That's why I always go for 29, 31 or 33 tooth with my N/W chainrings.

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Odd number o chainlinks on an even number tooth chainring,

I just saw one tooth off.