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would it cope? would it be wise? most riding is done around white/dark peak, any where from jacobs ladder, hope cross, to WLT, to stanage, to cut gate etc etc etc

is it worth worrying about with a carbon 100mm xc racer? i know it will handle trail centres, cannock etc fine and dandy and probably excel, but most riding is around the peaks, and mostly very rocky...

is this even worth worrying about? please tell me some of you folks do so?


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:03 pm
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a mountain bike you are afraid to take into mountains???? 😆 😆


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:21 pm
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Depends on the frame but I'd have no problems riding some carbon XC frames in the Peaks


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:23 pm
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It'd be fine, they're far stronger than they look. A mate rides his carbon Kula all over the Peaks and it's fine.


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:25 pm
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This never used to be a question people worried about. You bought a road bike for roads and a mountain bike for any where more bumpy.

If it helps I have a Klein hardatil which is now 14 years old and has about 60mm of suspension upfront which has coped with all the above you mention and not snapped yet...so I would have thought a bike with suspension at both ends would be just as ok.

If your that concerned just make sure you choose one with half decent warranty.


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:26 pm
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its not so much afraid, more worried it will snap or it will be terrible going from a 140mm setup 🙁

i want a do it all cross country bike for racing but i only want one bike, and its looking like a 100mm carbon full susser....

if they are designed for XC and 100mm is the peak too much for it?


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:27 pm
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funkydunc - this is what im thinking, many years ago bikes only had 60/80mm travel, and im guessing all you ancient folk ( 😉 ) still did the same rides up the peak on them?

my worry is technology has come on alot, and going from 140mm to 100mm may be a step backwards up there?


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:28 pm
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I recently went back to 80mm, and have ridden rigid in the peak.


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:30 pm
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I rode my carbon Pronghorn on the BHF ride last year. Only problem I had was having to wait for the rest of my group at the top of all the climbs.


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:32 pm
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This never used to be a question people worried about. You bought a road bike for roads and a mountain bike for any where more bumpy.

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Posted : 27/05/2011 8:32 pm
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Mine's a carbon hardtail with 100mm up front. Riding that in the Peak doesn't worry me... maybe it should though... 😆


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:34 pm
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it looks like it will be ok, the only thing id have to get used to more so is the pounding in pain id get from 100mm, the 140mm soaks it up but im guessing it will be alot harsher on those rocks on 100mm, espcially at the front! more control i guess though!


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 8:35 pm
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Put a 120 15mm axle on the front, On One SID XX 15mm QR and away you go. Make sure you put some copter tape on it to save it a bit from rock strikes and off. I've ridden a rigid loads in the peaks with no probs at all.

You shouldn't take more of a pounding if you travel at the right speed and choose the right lines, poor line choice is the enemy of shorter travel. Long travel just let's you be lazy and blast it. I have long travel for when I feel that way 🙂
But also short travel, I thank one at the bottom and the other at the top!


 
Posted : 27/05/2011 10:41 pm
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My MTB education was a rigid steel Carrera ridden around the Peak, no problems. If you're that worried about the travel go for something like a Yeti ASR5C (like what I'm getting, yay) - 127mm rear travel 120-140mm fork and will still build up light enough to race (as I'm planning on doing).


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 4:57 am
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i wouldn't worry about the bike - the bike will be fine - it's a mountain bike.

my only concern would be that i don't find xc race bikes much fun to ride...

they're brilliant machines, and 100mm of travel is plenty*, but i find the racing geometry makes them a bit 'nervous' (and the light wheels and skinny tyres don't help).

basically, what i'm saying is; Xc race bikes need a lot of skill to descend quickly, and i'm not good enough - i need a bike that flatters my ability, not one that relies on my ability.

(*warning, i'm an idiot, i'd love a 100mm Dh bike - i even built one** to see what it was like, and it was ace! :D)

(**but that's a different story)


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 5:45 am
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Have ridden 100mm Tallboy everywhere Inc Alps and a couple DH courses albeit very badly. You will live.


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 7:16 am
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Hi, :))


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 9:23 am
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Recently rode the peak on a 100mm AnthemX, it was an absolute blast. You have tp pedal up those hills before coming down them you know!
Others were on 100mm hardtails no problem, all had a great time. Few punctures on superlight tyres, high rollers will sort that.

Only niche bikes seem break get a proper one made by a big co. Itll be fine :).


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 9:28 am
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You'll die, no question.


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 9:29 am
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Well I ride the Peaks on a 100mm travel hardtail so you should be fine. I can't comment on what it will be like going from a long travel bike to a 100mm race machine but if you're a good enough rider there shouldn't be any problems I'd imagine.

What do people think on the issue of taking a carbon bike to the Peaks (i.e. the fact that it's carbon and there are massive rocks rather than the issue of travel)? Would you have no hesitation doing so if, say, a carbon hardtail was your only bike? I have heard of people having carbon bikes for racing and smooth stuff and more 'solid' bikes like alloy ones to take for Peak-style riding.


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 10:08 am
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is this going to be another carbon is rubbish thread?

yawn


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 10:20 am
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Don't do it!! Carbon is rubbish! 😆


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 10:27 am
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Ridden Carbon Fuel Ex with 120mm travel in the Peak, fine.

Ridden Carbon Fuel Ex with 120mm travel and gash in the lacquer in the Peak, still fine.

Ridden alu Marin Rift Zone xwith 100mm travel in the Peak, fine.

Carbon fine, 100mm fine. Why not both together?


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 12:51 pm
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If the Peak Park keep doing what they've just done to Chapel Gate it won't be an issue for much longer.


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 12:58 pm
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No chance, you need at least 140mm travel to ride in the peaks 🙄


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 2:10 pm
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stop posting silly questions and go out and ride your bike... carbon is stronger than steel end of.


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 2:31 pm
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What do people think we did back in the day when 100mm was a DH bike, never ride over anything rough?


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 3:57 pm
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If your asking those sort of questions maybe you should be asking will YOU cope without your 140mm of skills compensator?


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 4:28 pm
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id have to get used to more so is the pounding in pain id get from 100mm

Try putting the seat down a bit. 🙂


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 4:43 pm
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I've just got a carbon 100mm xc full-susser, will be asking the same kind of questions of it in the summer when it comes to the Highlands. Have ridden it pretty hard around the Surrey Hills, not quite the same as some of the high Peaks but some steep and twisty/droppy stuff none-the-less. Not what I got it for (wanted an out and out racer) but was very nice for a long day with lots of climbing.

Sure there were bits I'd have liked slightly longer forks (100mm on the back is plenty), but thats more a reflection of my mediocre skills and the speed of the guys I was following round.

If I lived in the Peaks and wanted one mtb I'd be looking at one of these. No reason you couldnt race xc on it too.

http://www.canyon.com/_uk/mountainbikes/bike.html?b=2077


 
Posted : 28/05/2011 5:05 pm

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