To E-Bike or not to E-bike, that is the question? That’s the question that Gary from Dorset is having to consider as one by one his local riding group has bought them to ride.
“You should try it …..”

“You know you want to …..”
“Everybody’s doing it …..”
“Go on, you’ll luv it …..”
Part of the script from Trainspotting? Nope, it’s the peer pressure, which I am sure quite a few mountain bikers are currently feeling, to go down the rabbit hole that is the e-bike trail.
Now I have absolutely nothing against e-bikes, my wife has had one for over six years and because of knee problems wouldn’t be able to cycle pain free without one. However I am now feeling the pressure to “join the club”, not because I need one, but rather because riding with some of my MTB mates is becoming increasingly difficult without one.
For the last 15 years or so I have been riding on Wednesday evenings with a group of local mates, sometimes there are just a couple of us sometimes on rare occasions five or six governed by the usual dependencies of weather and who’s around. These are spring and summer rides from when the clocks spring forward until they fall back, riding in the darkness isn’t really our thing unless it’s on the way home from the pub. We do around 20-25 miles finish at a local hostelry and have a beer or two before going our separate ways into the night. We do plenty of other rides as well, but Wednesday’s are always a bit special, blokes, bikes, beer and bullshit. It’s a chance to catch up, chew the fat and, most of the time have a damn good laugh with the benefit of a large dose of exercise to counter balance the beer and crisp intake.
Over the last two or three years the rides have become much less frequent, this is for a variety of reasons, mainly around some of the guys travelling more and not being available and we aren’t getting any younger, we are all 60+, and an evening ride after a day at work (for the non-retired members of the group) isn’t always what you want to do. However 2020 may prove to be a watershed moment for these rides and the main reason (I think) is e-bikes.
With the easing of ‘lock down’ rules we have been able to go out on Wednesday evening rides as a group again, but things have changed since last autumn’s evening excursions. Three members of the group are now exclusively riding e-bikes when mountain biking. So on the last two rides I have found myself on the sole acoustic bike amongst the purring motors of “my friends electric” (for younger readers that’s a Tubeway Army reference, google it, a good track and worth a listen).
So is this a problem?
Well sometimes yes. On the flat if they use sensible boost modes I can keep up. On downhills, especially off road and on the gnarly descents, I think I am faster on my lighter more nimble Stumpjumper. I gauged this by the fact that whenever I was behind one of them I was applying the brakes, catching them up or felt I could have gone much faster. The problem clearly is when we came to uphills; there is no way to keep up when they are able to go at twice my best speed without trying too hard. If I am foolish enough to try and keep up (FYI, you can’t!) or minimise their wait at the top I will be ‘ballbagged’ for the rest of the ride. My technique on hills has always been to set a pace that is right for me and don’t worry about anyone being quicker, there will always be someone slower (well most of the time!) and we usually take a breather and regroup at the top of the climb before moving on. Sometimes you get a long rest, sometimes you don’t. When riding with mates on e-bikes you will always be last, always get the minimum rest, always miss the banter at the top of climb and start to feel that you are holding up the group.

On the two rides we have been out on so far it hasn’t been a massive problem; the hills haven’t been too long and it’s been great fun to ride with mates again after the lock down. There have though been issues with changes to the routes. Our Wednesday night rides aren’t that well organised, we pick a place to meet up and the route is usually made up as we go along.
On our first ride together post lock down, with me having climbed from home for just under two miles up on to the South Dorset Ridgeway, the e-bikers suggested dropping back down (twice!) as we headed west each time returning back to the top before heading off into Weymouth to meet the WAG’s. After Weymouth I would have to climb back up and over the Ridgeway again to get home (the other guys live in the Weymouth area). I did some quick mental arithmetic of time, distance, number of ascents and came to an instant conclusion…
“F*** that, if you want to do it please do, I will meet you at the end of the Ridgeway before we drop into Weymouth”
The response from the e-bikers was “Well that’s the beauty of e-bikes you see, hills don’t matter”.
And of course they were absolutely right. If this was a “day out” ride I would have done the suggested route and to hell with any time constraints, but it was an evening “social” ride, we had people to meet and I would be slowing them down by a considerable amount. So the extra descents were scrapped and I guess I kinda got the route that I wanted and avoided awkward “where are you now?” phone calls from my wife.
Near the end of the second ride we came to a fork in the trail, left was (as I remembered it from previous rides) a short but very steep climb (front wheel leaving the track steep!) leading to an off road route home or we could go right which was a long shallow fast fun descent after which we would have to use a busy road to get to our final destination. Again I got my way and we avoided the steep climb, actually on the descent we looked back at the hill and I realised that I had misremembered the track and that we had been looking at the super steep side of the hill while on the side where the bridleway ran up it was an easy climb. In mitigation earlier that day I had ridden 6 miles each way over the ridgeway into Weymouth to play tennis for two and half hours and my tired legs were making the decisions not my brain.

While only a small sample size in terms of rides both examples illustrate some of the problems of riding alongside e-bikers, for the average rider it can be extremely difficult. Now I am sure that there are some skinny slim hipped Whippets out there reading this saying ”not a problem for me mate”, but believe me, at some point it will be. It might be age, fading fitness or getting fed up with arriving at the top of a climb in a sweaty mess while your e-bike buddies look like they have just showered and changed into a fresh set of clothes or maybe you just want an easy life (ride) for a change. The point will come when you reach the conclusion that if you can’t beat ‘em you have to join ‘em or you find a different set of mates to ride with. While I know it’s not quite that black and white, on some rides it will be fine, but on others it won’t and if the latter becomes the norm then what do you do?
From a personal point of view I am now feeling pressure, not from my mates, to join the e-bike club. These are guys that I have been riding with for nearly 25 years and have known some of them much longer than that and I want to keep riding with them. So what do I do?
Spending £2-3k on a decent e-bike (I would probably go hardtail not a full susser) seems a lot for what would be for me a “social ride” bike, I luv my Stumpjumper and when appropriate that would still be my go to ride. There is also the question of fitness. A great side benefit of mountain biking for me is building up my fitness and stamina for my other great sporting love, Squash and Racketball. There is no doubt in my mind that I won’t be as fit after riding an e-bike as when riding the Stumpy. A couple of folk have said “well you could turn down the boost and you then have to work harder”, but what is the point of that? Why have all that power and an engine and then not maximise the amount you use them?
The money isn’t an issue I am retired and have sufficient funds to just go and get one if I want to, but it seems a very selfish thing to do given the financial issues many people are, and will be, suffering from following the CV19 pandemic. Or should I just say…
“Bugger it, I can’t help everyone else, I might go under the proverbial bus tomorrow, unlikely given that we only get one a day through our village! So get an e-bike, enjoy the time riding with my mates and just get out on the trails with whatever bike is best for the ride I am doing that day and whoever I happen to be riding with”.
Getting one now would be difficult given the current supply chain issues, so maybe it’s a decision that I can wrestle with some more and put off until 2021. I do so like a bit of procrastination, at least I think I do!

Post Script:
I originally wrote this piece back in July, it’s now September and things have moved on. Lock down was eased a lot, but now looks like it may be back for a while longer and another friend I regularly ride with has got an e-bike. In Chris’s case the move to an e-MTB was a smart choice and I amongst others had been suggesting for a while that he should get one. He is a fit 70+, but has a medical condition that can affect his riding. In the last year or so he had increasingly found himself at the back of the group especially on climbs and felt he was slowing everyone down. Now riding a Specialized Levo he is more than able to ride with the group and has been christened “The Gatekeeper” as he is usually first to the gates we encounter on cross country rides.
Inevitably when we talk MTBs now the main topic of conversation is e-bikes, battery power, torque, software, chipping, engines, battery life, etc. The current hot topic is Shimano’s new EP8 motor. Vince, who rides with us occasionally and works in a premium LBS, says that over 90% of their bike sales now are e-bikes and they are definitely the future of mountain biking.

This week a group of us headed to Swinley Bike Park (just off of the M3 in Berkshire), 11 in total with three e-bikes amongst the group. Chris with his Levo, Ed with a new 2021 Cannondale Neo (not sure how you get a 2021 bike in the middle of 2020, a question for the Editor maybe?) and Ian with a Turner 5 Spot that he has converted himself including building his own battery! Did having an e-bike make a difference at this particular trail centre? Well not too much I think, they were obviously faster up all the short climbs that we did and definitely much fresher (less sweaty!) at the end of the ride. On the singletrack, which was the bulk of the ride, their power advantage is negated by riding within the group with nowhere to overtake. On the steeper descents you really didn’t need the extra power unless you have balls of steel and the bike skills to handle going that much faster on a very heavy bike. But this wasn’t an e-bike test or an “e-bike vs acoustic” ride; it was just a bunch of like minded mates out for a ride and having a lot fun doing it. And that’s the point I think, it really doesn’t matter what bike you are sitting on as long as you are enjoying the experience and having fun. So I will finish this piece with a re-hash of an often used phrase, “No matter what bike your arse is sat on …… Just get out and ride!”
I’m lucky to be johnnynomates so I’m not slowing anyone down with group rides.
For me an ebike isn’t what I want to ride offroad yet (I’m only 68 ffs). It would be slower than my road bike (I live in a flattish part of the country at the moment) and the tech is still changing a lot and I’d rather not spend the money.
Thing is I don’t own a car and there are no buses out to my village so 99% of my travel is by bike. When I go down the electric route I’m 99% certain it will be a cargo bike for shopping trips and carting general crap around.
My partner Mel says as a woman she’s had 30 years of this. Blokes waiting and racing off as soon as you get to the top. And then in the pub asking why are you so miserable? And not being invited next time, nor me. Oh yeah. She has an ebike now and can beat them all.
It’s a tough choice. I live at the top of a 25 minute Tour de France cat climb and use an ebike as a moped for picking up supplies. Whizzing down in jeans and e-biking back up with a rucksack of food.
Fortunately it’s a fairly low spec ebike, so off-road it does not compare to my fancy ti hardtail… Tektro brakes and suntour fork… and consequently the temptation to go Mountain biking on it is not there.
Money is the main prohibiter for me. Second to that is faff. I’ve reverted to a simple hardtail to keep faffness down to a minimum.
I would normally say no but after 2 days peddling up the golfie access trail I may be softening my view
In any case I wouldn’t get a hardtail ebike. They aren’t fun up or down.
1st off Swinley on an E Bike is overkill , hardtail all day long ! Secondly I’ve had a Kona Remote Control for 18 months , I use it for my once a week “Out Out ” ride Quantocks, Mendips , Exmoor etc etc , the other 4 or 5 rides its HT . On those rides I love it BUT I’m starting to get jaded because of reliability issues . I’m on my 2nd motor . About a month ago it developed an Error / Fault .After a quick check I switched it back on and suddenly it shot across my garage of its own free will and smacked into another bike ! I don’t mind admitting it terrified me ! Bosch replaced the motor and are currently ( sorry !) investigating the problem . Exmoor last Friday my mates on a Whyte E150 , 6 miles in comes up with an error he spent the rest of the ride limited to 6 mph ! So first off if anyone is thinking of buying one do it through a shop .
I have to be honest I’m considering going back to Analogue , it will be hard work but at least the bike won’t be trying to kill me ! Problem is I don’t have an out for the E Bike I see the new Shimano motor mentioned in the article , I understand that is having issues isn’t it ?
As most have commented, I’ve enough issues with keeping a simple HT running straight, the amount of buggering about for an eBike would put me off at the moment.
Prefer my riding to be about the riding, not about the tech – though I have rented them, they were great fun, but not for me. I’m not a ‘shuttle run shralp the gnar’ kinda guy though!
I’d definitely see myself buying an eBike as soon as the battery tech means they’re a bit slimmer downtubes.
I’d use it to just get more riding done. Pedal just as hard as a normal ride, but cover like 4x the distance. It’ll be like 8 runs at the Golfie instead of 3 or 4 before I’m a bit tired.
Change an innovation is good, eBikes are just another way of doing the same thing.
Resist, resist, and resist again!
At least these guys are getting on a bit.
Basically I view them as mobility scooters.
I wouldn’t knock anyone who needs one, but don’t fancy one for a walk round the park.
While I can ride a bike under my own power I’ll never consider an e-bike.
My wife loves her ebike. I love her ebike. We go out and ride bikes. Battery kw in one and legs kw on another. We go places together ( its not a sloppy love tale this) we ride together. She works hard on the ebike, its not all just sit on yer ass and let the bike do it. I work hard on my bike , which keeps me happy and her as well knowing she isnt holding me up to go at a speed I do. We climb up stuff and we go down stuff. We go further than usual , as she can now do that. She smiles more, she enjoys new places , she is happy that we can do something that we both enjoy . I am happy for both of us and thats what an ebike does for us. It gives us time to ride and enjoy , without her struggling. Some of us arent super human , although lots here think they are.
I will get an ebike when the legs scream no more too.
As for being a mobility scooter. Its a bit low to call them that. Ask my best mate who has had heart issues for over 6 years at the age of 45. Then say that to him. Its given him ability to ride his bike again.
Riding bikes is riding bikes, whatever you ride…………..
It’s just bike tech evolving and thankfully we can choose to embrace / adopt it or not. No different from ht Vs FS bike types, both serve a purpose and have their pros and cons. I ride an ageing HT (login name should give you a hint) and am lucky enough to have a full carbon enduro fs and an endurance road bike – they all help me keep the middle age spread at bay and get out and enjoy the countryside. Would I buy an e-bike? > No as I enjoy the Zen moments / masochism of grinding a climb followed by grin inducing descent but if the assistance of a e-bike helps others get out and ride am all for it, even when I’m drafted on steep hills by power assisted OAP’s. More cyclists can only be a good thing IMHO.
TBF from the photo most of that group look like they’re getting on a bit and the assistance might be useful.
What I don’t get is the groups of young(ish) riders I see round me all on ebikes.
I’m sure it’s fun and all that, and you can do more laps/descents, etc. But I’d rather earn my descents.
I’m a curmudgeon and mostly ride on my tod, so my opinion counts for nowt anyway 😉
Having got a emtb hardtail forncommutimg (summer route has quite a bit of off road) I’d say it has made me fitter not less fit as I just ride more often. There is academic research that says most ebike buyers get no less fit: https://formative.jmir.org/2019/3/e13643/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S259019821930017X
I’d also buy full sus if I could afford it.
You may find it’s also a much more enjoyable method of transport for short journeys than driving. More sustainable too.
I went the alternative route and spent a lot of money on a carbon hardtail to help me keep up. Wow what a bike. It is awesome up, down and on the road. Happy that at 62 i am still loving riding and still burning the calories with something very reliable. Having generally ridden good 2nd hand bikes i am blown away by how good this new one is. 2500 miles since March. It is all about the bike.
I smashed my ankle to bits at age 35, couldn’t ride for almost a year and still can’t pull up hard on the pedals or climb out the saddle without pain.
Getting an E-MTB (Focus Jam2) was a game changer for me, meant I was back in the game and could ride with my whippety mates without them spending half the day waiting for me.
Now my son’s old enough to ride offroad my human powered hardtail gets a lot more use but for the rare, precious, big days out in the hills with fast company the E-MTB is the only game in town for me.
My concern isn’t with the riders getting out and enjoying themselves, it’s that the tech allows many riders to leap-frog a chunk of ‘trailcraft’ for want of a better word. It means that you can buy an ebike, point up at a distant hilltop and you can go there. I’m not on about the ‘Oh, you have to pay your dues and earn those hilltops’ – it’s more that as you ride mountain bikes, you learn how to fix your bike, how to read the weather and dress appropriately, how to fuel yourself and where you can (and can’t) ride. Without some decent education, we’re going to have a new generation of younger riders who don’t know much of this and, who no fault of their own, can now get to the top of a Lakeland pass in sweatpants and T-shirt who don’t know how to fix their chain when it breaks. What happens then?
Similar things happened when the UK’s ex-golfers took up road riding. The traditional club riders grumbled that these new riders didn’t know the arcane lore of the road – riding in a paceline and waving at obstacles and so on – but when that went wrong, the new rider was left with a puncture, somewhere on a country lane and able to call a friend for a ride home. With a similar ebike rider on top of Helvellyn, what happens then? I reckon there’ll be a few people calling Mountain Rescue, expecting an RAC-type service to come and help them out.
Chipps, my missus has never fixed her bike, motor or not, thats why she employs me :). Judging by a lot of people who ride, if they knew how to fix bikes, there could be less of a queue of weeks to get into a bike shop to get things fixed, as there seems to be currently, covid or not. So, although lots shout about ‘knowing’ how to get out of trouble, most wouldn’t and employ their legs to get them home.
As for clothing, see Snowdon on a busy day , without bikes (or bikers without helmets coming down). The guy in carpark said one woman was going to walk LLanberris in high heals. He sent her to the outdoor shop to buy boots, but I guess she still had her ‘ night club ‘ jacket on and mascara.
Education has failed. See Covid , Soho, Bournmouth beach , local lockdowns etc etc.
Seeing how road groups go out, I cant see anyone with any sort of road craft. More a huge group of stick like wannabees , stopping traffic flow and aggressive to other vehicles on the roads. I believe its all part of the ‘road’ ahem ‘fun’ to be dropped off the back and left for dead , as it seems to be round these parts. Mainly why I wouldnt have the want to be in there. I suspect most of that ‘peleton’ would be using the local bike shop to fix the dropped riders bike as they would be clueless.
This doesnt detract from the vision of eMTB ing. It makes more people ride and thats a good thing. More riding with ‘assistance’ than no riding is a great health thing. People wearing boxer shorts and bikinis is another discussion.