Anyone know anything about these? Reported on [url= http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/2012/04/30/on-one-pre-production-smorgasbord-2-25-tire-and-lurcher-full-carbon-29er-hardtail/ ]Bikerumour[/url]
They look pretty tidy.
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60a/42a dual compound in 2.25, seems to tick a lot of boxes.
Price?
Availability?
In stock tommorow. £19.99
Presume that price is for the wire bead version Brant? What will the folders cost?
Is that for the folding or wire please brant?
That's for the folders. Wire is OEM only.
Look AMAZING. will they work?
Haha great minds greedy!
How did you come up with the tread pattern?
Combination of previous favourites?
Pretty design?
Pawprint of the Calderdale Toffee Hound?
Back of a crisp packet in the pub?
Spells out a rude word in the mud?
LOL @ rusty - awaits "quirky" marketing story...
How did you come up with the tread pattern?
http://www.shedfire.com/2012/06/19/on-one-smorgasbord-tech/
Any word on the on one/vee rubber fatbike tyre? I spoke to someone at On One the other day about their fatbike. Apparently the release date has been put back till "at least September." It was meant to be out next month!
Ta,
I've always wondered how people end up choosing their own particular set of compromises for a tyre design.
cynic-al - MemberLOL @ rusty - awaits "quirky" marketing story...
It wasn't meant to be funny or clever, I was just interested.
Vee rubber tyres are available now, somewhere, probably. I'm told they aren't great. The On-one Fat tyres are taking longer than expected. Last I heard samples were "not far off".
Any word on the on one/vee rubber fatbike tyre? I spoke to someone at On One the other day about their fatbike. Apparently the release date has been put back till "at least September." It was meant to be out next month!
Tyres complete end of July, so with us, by air, hopefully mid August. The BIKE will be mid/late September.
I've always wondered how people end up choosing their own particular set of compromises for a tyre design.
The tyres are designed by Shiggy (not Shaggy) who is somewhat tyre obsessed.
http://www.mtbtires.com/site2/
850g for the 29er, not a racing tyre then.. 😉
Brant,
will the new tyres work tubeless?
the technical info on shedfire site spells tyre with an 'i'.
How disappointing.
850g for the 29er, not a racing tyre then..
No great desire to make a minimally treaded lightweight racing tyre. Seem to be lots of those for 29ers around. I wanted some ace trail tyres at the right price.
Brant,will the new tyres work tubeless?
Lord knows. They are from a standard Maxxis carcass, [i]without[/i] a funky bead lip thing, so I'd imagine they would on some sort of rim strip+goo thing... I really don't understand all the tubeless specific stuff. And you'll note, I wasn't the tyre designer, so you don't have to worry about that aspect 🙂
Presumably as more of us run tubeless there's less tyre swapping going on and more demand for all-round boots, and our variable weather makes seasonal tyre choice a bit moot anyway.
But 750g in 26x2.25, heavy man.
the technical info on shedfire site spells tyre with an 'i'.How disappointing.
Written by Mr Shiggy himself.
Hmm.
I have tyre angst now.
[i]Written by Mr Shiggy himself.[/i]
or Shyggy, as he's known in the uk 😉
Shiggy, any idea where to get the Vee Rubber tyre in the UK? I've had no luck as yet.
Shiggy's not here.
That's Shaggy.
Sorry, I meant Shaggy.
Another question about the On One fat tyre, how much will it cost? I spoke to On One a couple of months ago and the guy on the phone said he thought it would be around £30. I told him the tyres currently available are about 80 quid but he said On One's tyre will be much cheaper. Any truth in this?
Quite like the look of those. Tyres have suddenly become an expensive commodity, so a dual compound folder for twenty rubs is cause for celebration all round.
As for the weights, a lot of big name tyre manufacturers' products come in at the same weight too, plus we don't yet know how big these tyres are going to be. Kenda and Continental have wildly differing views on how wide 2.3" is for example.
Are they available yet? I fancy trying a pair
sound like just the thing to put on the on-one SS before i sell it.
Sorry, I meant Shaggy.
Another question about the On One fat tyre, how much will it cost? I spoke to On One a couple of months ago and the guy on the phone said he thought it would be around £30. I told him the tyres currently available are about 80 quid but he said On One's tyre will be much cheaper. Any truth in this?
Though I can't confirm the final pricing, our tyre will not cost £80. I'd hope for half that. At least.
As for the weights, a lot of big name tyre manufacturers' products come in at the same weight too, plus we don't yet know how big these tyres are going to be. Kenda and Continental have wildly differing views on how wide 2.3" is for example.
Full tech diagram here. 55mm carass width, 58mm knob width.
http://www.shedfire.com/2012/06/20/smorgasbord-what-does-it-take-to-make-a-tyre/
Quite like the look of those. Tyres have suddenly become an expensive commodity, so a dual compound folder for twenty rubs is cause for celebration all round.
29in [url= http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/TYOOSM29X225/on_one_smorgasbord_29x225_tyre ]here[/url], 26in [url= http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/TYOOSM26X225/on_one_smorgasbord_26x225_tyre ]here[/url]
Single compound folding £19.99, Dual compound £29.99 (not £19.99 also as I might have excitedly misinformed last night). Amazingly, yes, dual compound tyres do cost more to make.
Compound is 60a or 60/42, not 50A, 50/42as the site says right now.
The 2.4in Chunky Monkey tyre is a 50a and someone put the details in our system wrong. It will refresh.
Chunky Monkeys in stock in October.
Are they available yet? I fancy trying a pair
Well they are on the website.
£20 for the single compound £30 for the dual.
If they work out well as all rounders - which they look like they should - then they seem pretty good value to me.
this is about as excited as i've been about "new" bike-related product in a while.
not saying much, but then , it's only bikes.
regardless, thanks for a cheaper (and effective-looking) new 29er tyre, brant.
"Though I can't confirm the final pricing, our tyre will not cost £80. I'd hope for half that. At least."
Sound good to me. I'll be buying at least one.
Why not up the price of the 19.99 pnes by a penny so people can get free delivery?
Buy a "Odyssey Tech-Boltz Anodized Bolt Kit" for 99p and grin a little.
And you get two bolts!
http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/BSODTB/odyssey_tech_boltz_anodized_bolt_kit
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Why not up the price of the 19.99 pnes by a penny so people can get free delivery?
why not buy two then you have a spare when it wears out?
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because I only want one tyre , I have not tested the tyre and that costs me £19.98 pence more than the actual suggestion from your potential customer.why not buy two then you have a spare when it wears out?
TBH I need a new tyre and I am tempted. However I am not buying another to get free postage when other competitors do free postage whatever I buy.
If you pull some strings Brant i will buy one and will even pay the 1p to get postage.
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how grim are you junkyard...
Dont do it Brant 😈
other competitors do free postage whatever I buy.
How many of them are selling these tyres?
Moaning that things don't cost enough. Really?
yes I was moaning they dont cost enough after all £20 with free postage will be more expensive that paying for postage [19.99 + 2.50]...you are a genius sir[ you quoted the wrong bit as well for that point about me willing to pay more buy yes i will pay 1 p more to [b]save[/b] £2.49]
I'm sure brant has considered the cost of postage which is precisely why these are 1p short of the threshold. I can't imagine there's a huge margin on these tyres.
you quoted the wrong bit
No, I didn't. As I alluded to, competitors are not selling On-One tyres. If you collect them from the shop (or Mountain Mayhem) you don't pay postage.
merlin 1 .5 miles away One one a lot further and will still cost me more than 1p or £2.50 postage.
its their business they can do as they wish but why would I pay £2.50 postage for the sake of 1 p?
You are right re the quoted bit it does relate to the fact they only sell on one stuff and my comment was incorrect as I ignored that bit and commented on the price bit, sorry.
does £2.49 really make that much of a difference to what you want?
Well £20 and free postage sounds better to me than £19.99 and £2.50 postage
Which offer sounds best to you?
I can buy two and sell you one for £22.49 if you want. 😉
Tempted myself to try it instead of a Crossmark on the rear but not touching them until someone else provides feedback on how they well the work tubeless...
I wonder what the actual cost of posting something heavy and bulky like a tyre is, including packaging and handling costs. I bet it's more than £2.50.
not touching them until someone else provides feedback on how they well the work tubeless
well they are a maxxis carcas so should be fine, never had a problem with maxxis tubeless.
I'm sure brant has considered the cost of postage which is precisely why these are 1p short of the threshold. I can't imagine there's a huge margin on these tyres.
I don't set pricing.
I have not tested the tyre and that costs me £19.98 pence more than the actual suggestion from your potential customer.
Hmmm...I hadn't tested my Rampages when I handed over £58 for a pair. You know what? They're alright.
Bear in mind that it's very easy to spend £40 on a tyre you've never tested before too.
If you have to swallow the postage then £22.48 isn't bad for a decent tyre, certainly cheaper than heading to your nearest Specialized dealer.
I'm tempted by this tyre as I've just got a Nobby nic that will not mount on a stans crest for love nor money.
Anyone got any opinion on how it will compare to the other ones they have on sale on the site, the rubena ones?
I've just got myself a rubena scyalla, seems like a nice very supple tyre and went on very easily, was thinking about the other more grippy one for the front.
oh and I know its not the best guide but whats a good weight for a 29er tyre? I know sub 600 is a good aim for a 26er, but what about 29er?
What would a racing ralph/rocket ron come in at?
Why not up the price of the 19.99 pnes by a penny so people can get free delivery?
don't be a tightarse and buy the dual compound version. free delivery on that. Everyone's happy 🙂
I'm tempted by this tyre as I've just got a Nobby nic that will not mount on a stans crest for love nor money.
if you don't want it send it to me and I'll put it on my crests!
What is the difference between the 2, and the different uses?
Smorgasbord Enduro: folding bead, 60tpi casing with "Eckso" casing reinforcement and 60a single compound
Smorgasbord Trail Extreme: folding bead, 60tpi casing with "Eckso" casing reinforcement and dual 60a/42a tread compound.
What are they designed for and to do??
Is it a front or rear tyre?
It just almost seems purposeful to sting people for postage. Probably innocent though...but I do have a suspicious mind! 🙂
"Eckso" casing
Is this meant to inform us that the tyres have the same casing as Maxxis "Exo" ones?
bigjim - If you want to have a go be my guest! I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong as the rubena tyre went on very easily. On the nobby nic I can't even get the first bead on!
they look like panaracer razer mx which are briliant fast rolling tyres
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they look like panaracer razer mx
Can i get these posted for free 😉
Is it a front or rear tyre?
it is.
leigh0rough0riders - Member
What is the difference between the 2, and the different uses?Smorgasbord Enduro: folding bead, 60tpi casing with "Eckso" casing reinforcement and 60a single compound
Smorgasbord Trail Extreme: folding bead, 60tpi casing with "Eckso" casing reinforcement and dual 60a/42a tread compound.What are they designed for and to do??
Is it a front or rear tyre?
Soft compounds at the sides mean more grip when they tyres leaned over. Only using it at the edge keeps the extra drag that soft rubber causes to a minimum. As for different uses, the dual compound one will probably be better 99% of the time, the 1% being at the till where it's 50% more.
Looks kinda like a high roller to me, so probably good on the front and back, big wide spaced knobbles will shed mud at the expense of speed/grip in the bone dry, but then in the dry I find more benifit from softer tyres and less dependant on the tread pattern, so they'll probably work as well as most others anyway, looks like they'd probably work in most conditions except absolute mud.
All IMO and just a guess, I need new tyres anyway so these'll probably be high up the list.
I am a novice XC, track and trail, etc MTB rider in Manchester, U.K.
I do not have tubeless rims.
I am looking for a strong, reliable, all rounder, all year, all terrain, all season, fast rolling ‘British summer’ tyre. Ok I understand there isn’t one, but I am looking for the best one (front and back), to suit without swapping tyres.
I mainly ride in summer, autumn, and spring, on trails, tracks, single tracks, paths, roads. So I want a fast tyre that can also handle wet roots and wet rocks plus loose ground and some mud. Plus the odd ride in winter, and preferably one that does not puncture so easy.
So basically a ‘U.K’. tyre. I see these Smorgasbord are made with the U.K. in mind.
The Smorgasbord look interesting tyres and more interesting as they are designed to cater for possibly summer U.K. conditions. Pity nobody has tested them.
So can I gather the only difference in the Enduro and the Trail Extreme is the Trail Extreme has a softer compound outer tread for extra grip in cornering? Is that correct and the only difference?
Would either be more suited for front or rear?
Thanks!
If you can't wait for these, specialized purgatory are OK as an all round tyre, or the eskars for all round but avoiding the worst of the mud tyre. Cheaper than those on-ones too.
Tyres are a personal thing, I really like High rollers, other's cant get on with them. I also like semi slick or dirt-jump/skatepark style rear tyres which gets a few "how do you stay upright in mud" type comments, guess I must lean the bike further to get the sides digging in as others hate high rollers as they tend to grip/slip/grip/slip if you're not using the sides properly and never found rear wheel traction an issue.
At the end of the day, everything works in the dry, nothing works in the mud, some tyres just work even better in the dry, and some are marginally less rubbish in the mud.
Genuinely laughing out load at Junkyard moaning about the price of the tyre coming in at 1p under the free postage threshold. You prat!!! It's a penny... So what? Buy the cheapest thing off their website to push it over? I bought a rubber grommet off CRC at £1.20 to push an order over £75 a while back, so I could then save £12 in total off it.
Well the upshot of it is, you've genuinely shot everyone else in the foot now, cos On One have increased the price of the tyre by £5 now to [url= http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/TYOOSM26X225/on_one_smorgasbord_26x225_tyre ]£24.99[/url], so well done Junky... 🙄
Expect the "sale" price to drop to £19.99 any day now 🙄
Yeah just put 2 in the basket and the price went up by £10. 🙁 So I promptly removed them.
I'll look at some thing else.
junkyard will be happy he's getting free postage, no doubt, even if he is paying an extra £5 for the tyre.
I can confirm price increase is directly as a result of this thread.
Postage now free! Enjoy.
Wooop, 29er tyres are still 19.99 😀
nbt - 29er owners aren't cheapskates who want free postage on everything, obviously;)
brant - it's this sort of thing that makes me like planet-x/on-one 🙂
I can confirm price increase is directly as a result of this thread.
Postage now free! Enjoy.
How very professional.
Fabulous! I presume they'll be £19.99 from the stand at MM today? 🙂
Brant - how about being the first to make a 3" 29er tyre!?!? Come on lead the way 😀 (sub 1000g would be good too )
brant - MemberI can confirm price increase is directly as a result of this thread.
Postage now free! Enjoy.
LOL!
frc - I think 45Nth might have what you are after.........
brant - Member
I can confirm price increase is directly as a result of this thread.
Postage now free! Enjoy.
Shame that. CRC doing lots of decent maxxis less than £25 too.
I cant be arsed to play along and wait for them to drop down to the previous £20 so I will play it safe and get a maxxis minion from CRC for £22.50 .. saved £2.50 too 😆
Kinda like cutting off your nose to spite your face ... bit silly 😳
