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[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11973524/Starbucks-barista-writes-creepy-message-on-teen-girls-coffee-cup.html ]This story[/url] going around the internet right now about a guy who tried flirting with a 19 year-old Starbucks customer, makes me wonder how people can possibly engage in harmless flirting anymore, when they run the risk of ridicule or accusations of harassment, and being made a fool of on social media.
I think, in this case, that the mother's response was inappropriate and unwarranted.
Sending photographs of the groin area is quite popular, so I read...
yeah, it's not the most subtle ever, but it's pretty harmless, no?
Helena Horton needs shooting
I think, in this case, that the mother's response was inappropriate and unwarranted
+1
I reckon in the next 50 years men will be castrated at birth to avoid any filthy urges
I'm disgusted. No-one ever does that to my starbucks.
One person had a good way to get revenge: "I'd spill it, burn myself, then sue them for not displaying the health and safety warnings."
Yeah really good way... and revenge???? wtf???
So one girl liked it - (the tweet) "A barista gave me this cup that says "Careful, you're extremely hot" with a very cute smile. Good morning u cutie"
Another one didn't.
I think the problem is the supposed NEWS websites grabbing any old shit from TwitFaceRedGram et al and calling it news. There should a specialist site for pathetic non-news like this.
So it OK in starbucks but not on Linkedin?
I dont think I would expect to be firted with / hit on as the customer of any business, so I dont think it acceptable.
Likewise I wouldn't flirt with customers of my business, totally inappropriate.
Do you not get that?
I dont think I would expect to be firted with / hit on as the customer of any business, so I dont think it acceptable.
I was leaving a pub one night and the barmaid ran over as I was walking out the door and asked me out. 3 years of filth ensued. Sounds all good to me.
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/822330-quinnspiracy
to be fair she had a point. we could use gamergate as an excuse for wiping out humanity full stop and just calling it a day
I was leaving a pub one night and the barmaid ran over as I was walking out the door and asked me out. 3 years of filth ensued. Sounds all good to me.
Ah, I see, so there is a pecking order.
Its OK in the pub if you are a woman hitting on a man, maybe in the coffeeshop hitting on a teenager, but definatley not in the legal chambers hitting on a laywer?
Is that right?
Got it!
I don't think I would expect to be firted with / hit on as the customer of any business, so I don't think it acceptable.
Oh come on! Maybe not you, I don't know what you're like, but lighten up:
Barmen, waitresses, ski reps, tennis instructors, plumbers/gamekeepers/other misc. horny-handed sons of toil...
's just a storm in a paper cup.
Oh come on!
Exactly, I'd give my right *[i]remembers I'm right handed[/i]*, no left arm to be in this position:
BoardinBob - Member
I dont think I would expect to be firted with / hit on as the customer of any business, so I dont think it acceptable.
I was leaving a pub one night and the barmaid ran over as I was walking out the door and asked me out. 3 years of filth ensued. Sounds all good to me.
Edit: before I was married of course...
Likewise I wouldn't flirt with customers of my business, totally inappropriate.
A customer of my business just told me I had a nice rack 😀
"I like my women like I like my coffee.
Hot and strong and... with a spoon in them."
We need to lighten up or there'll be no human race left! It's really nowhere near creepy or harassment.
+1 for this being clickbait/non-story
Social media allows stupid people to show the world they're stupid. I suspect this mother has always been uptight but now she can show the world she is... there've always been people like this
Lady Chatterly's Looking out of the Window
The Postman Always Remains Professional
[i]I dont think I would expect to be firted with / hit on as the customer of any business, so I dont think it acceptable.[/i]
serious? I was a barman as a teenager for pretty much solely this reason!
A customer of my business just told me I had a nice rack
Do you sell racks?
Do you sell racks?
Don't spoil my fantasy.
So it OK in starbucks but not on Linkedin?I dont think I would expect to be firted with / hit on as the customer of any business, so I dont think it acceptable.
Likewise I wouldn't flirt with customers of my business, totally inappropriate.
Do you not get that?
No, I think the LinkedIn guy suffered the consequences of commenting on the photo of a flipping psycho. The poor guy did nothing wrong. A bit gauche maybe, but not wrong.
As for not flirting with a customer of your business, how is is that people are supposed to meet other people? I fully accept the need to stay away from lines of power (e.g. medical professional and patient; teacher and student; lawyer and client; clergy and, well, pretty much anyone), but where there is no power and/or danger invested in the interaction, then I say fair game.
I’m *really* bad at noticing if someone is flirting with me. Had friends point it out afterwards so many times. I really do wish people would just tell me when they fancy me - much safer.
Rachel
them lads in them coffee shops do that shit to a hundred cups a day. its a bit of harmless fun in a long monotonous job and if the recipient gets a morale boost out of it aswell then its win win... and if the recipient is offended by it then well win again! prick
Mr Woppit - Member
Sending photographs of the groin area is quite popular, so I read...
To really impress them ..send two pictures to my it whole!!..... 😀
Worked for me .....I just took one from the Internet ....boy was she in for a shock later
I dont think I would expect to be firted with / hit on as the customer of any business, so I dont think it acceptable.
Is it OK to be smiled at? wished a good day? Or are your business transactions limited to the robotic?
I don't think I would notice if someone was flirting with me, not that it is ever likely to be a problem.
I think the starbucks thing is utterly harmless.
not in the legal chambers hitting on a laywer
nothing wrong with hitting lawyers IMO.
I think the problem is the supposed NEWS websites grabbing any old shit from TwitFaceRedGram et al and calling it news. There should a specialist site for pathetic non-news like this.
Someone made the point recently that it only seems to be considered harassment if it's done by unattractive people.
If George Clooney makes a mildly suggestive/flirty remark are most women going to be outraged and claim it's inappropriate and creepy?
I never realised someone was flirting with me until they used the phrase 'I would totally have sex with you'. It really needs spelling out for me. 🙂
There should a specialist site for pathetic non-news like this.
[url= http://www.****/tvshowbiz/article-3303671/Kimberley-Walsh-leather-leggings-polo-neck-radio-appearance.html ]There is[/url]
🙂
Is it OK to be smiled at? wished a good day? Or are your business transactions limited to the robotic?
I suspect most people are able to distinguish between civility and flirting.
I despair at some people, social media is awash with peoples expressions of moral outrage at a wide array off, quit frankly, bullshit reasons. Rather than be happy that a member of the public has validated that she has passed on good genes to her daughter; that she doesn't look like a bulldog licking piss off a thistle.
That message wasn't creepy, creepy is saying you want to kiss her where she poos. Ffs. 🙄
The thing with the lawyers isn't comparable. The woman was trying to make a professional contract with a senior (and considerably older) partner in a law firm and his response wasn't 'flirty,' it was a massive outpouring of how stunning her photo was with any mention at all of her career left as an afterthought in the last sentence.
If we can't differentiate between a complimentary couple of scribbles on a coffee cup and a condescending abuse of authority, we're going to die out as a species inside of a couple of generations.
I think the mother is really annoyed at that fact that she's obviously past her best.
There should a specialist site for pathetic non-news like this.
Mostly seem to end up here getting people frothing over their skinny caramel machiattos which don't have flirty messages on?
The thing with the lawyers isn't comparable. The woman was trying to make a professional contract with a senior (and considerably older) partner in a law firm and his response wasn't 'flirty,' it was a massive outpouring of how stunning her photo was with any mention at all of her career left as an afterthought in the last sentence.If we can't differentiate between a complimentary couple of scribbles on a coffee cup and a condescending abuse of authority, we're going to die out as a species inside of a couple of generations.
QFT
As we're quoting, quoted for teh lolz
That message wasn't creepy, creepy is saying you want to kiss her where she poos. Ffs.
The butthurt has been strong this week hasn't it! What's wrong people, is it 'cos it's getting dark?
I'd bet that all the women that complain about this sort of thing are the ones that are always saying 'Why can't I just find a nice normal guy?'. Because this.
Probably because 'normal' guys are ****ing terrified of flirting or showing the remotest of interest in case they get labelled 'creepy' or 'potential rapist'.
As someone who had to defend himself against a sexual harassment allegation while working in a bar (not guilty, as judged by normal, mentally stable people) I can confirm that this exactly the case.
Not with a customer, I hasten to add.
QFT
Huh?
I suspect most people are able to distinguish between civility and flirting.
And what makes one good and one bad?
I dont think I would expect to be firted with / hit on as the customer of any business, so I dont think it acceptable.
Likewise I wouldn't flirt with customers of my business, totally inappropriate.
[b]Do you not get that?[/b]
I get it yes.
That's what you think. That's your personal opinion.
Do you get that other people have their own opinions, and not everyone agrees with you.
Probably because 'normal' guys are ****ing terrified of flirting or showing the remotest of interest in case they get labelled 'creepy' or 'potential rapist'.
Women like the mother are the reason aliens won't talk to us and Jeremy Kyle has a TV show.
I've started a new job a few months ago I'm out of the office most days and the office is full of lovely ladies.
And I do flirt with a couple of them but there has been once or twice where you think eeeek and expected a "meeting" with the boss when I got back to the office because flirty email suddenly went all quiet.
Both occasions I finally got a cheeky reply back(they had just been very busy to respond) but I must admit I was shitting myself.
Got to be sooo careful these days.
At my old place the girls on the shop floor gave as good as they got to be fair to the point of show arses, tattoos in areas not usually show on factory floor!!
My type of girls 😀
Quod Ferat Temonstrandum, Cougar. 🙄
QFT = quoted for truth or in laymens terms, I agree
I thought it was 'quite ****ing true' 🙂
Quite flirty trousers?
Pervert.
We go to rock and roll dance nights, lots of flirting, no fights, people generally go home with the partner they arrived with. It's a form of flattery.
People like to seduce, rarely on a sexual level but often on a social or business level. Call it charm if you wish. People like being seduced too. You can seduce people of the same sex, the other sex, you want them to find you interesting, amusing, astute, worth knowing, sexy (even if you don't want sex with them).
Take flirting as a compliment however it's intended, if you're not interested make it clear - IMO harassment only starts after you've made it clear you're not interested.
People like to seduce, rarely on a sexual level but often on a social or business level. Call it charm if you wish. People like being seduced too. You can seduce people of the same sex, the other sex, you want them to find you interesting, amusing, astute, worth knowing, sexy (even if you don't want sex with them).
This, absolutely...
"Flirting" can range from wildly inappropriate to an essential inter-personal skill (not saying that applies to this situation). Much of business relies on building good relationships
I dont think I would expect to be firted with / hit on as the customer of any business, so I dont think it acceptable.
Likewise I wouldn't flirt with customers of my business, totally inappropriate.
Maybe you're just too unattractive to be hit on. 😉
I flirt all the time when out and about; my wife thinks it's quite amusing. Mind you she's pretty good at it too. We find it helps us get more of what we want/better service/makes for a more pleasant experience, in a number of different types of situation. What's wrong with a bit of flirting for God's sake? The Human Race would have died out long ago if we never flirted, let's face it.
As for 'professionalism'; I always used to flirt a bit with many female customers etc, to the point of occasionally 'hitting' on them. Even been lucky once or twice. Only ever once had negative feedback. Must be my natural charm I suppose. 🙂
Mind you it can get a bit awkward; a friend is adamant that a young woman in the local bakery shop fancies me, because I'm always flirting with the staff there. I'm a bit nervous about going in there now. 😳
And what makes one good and one bad?
I can't think of a good reason to not be civil by default, but I can think of examples where it would be inappropriate to flirt.
I can't think of a good reason to not be civil by default, but I can think of examples where it would be inappropriate to flirt.
That's not an answer, just a restatement of the question.
That's not an answer, just a restatement of the question.
No, it's not the answer you're looking for. It works just fine for me.
I would fire the barista for behaving inappropriately towards the customers while on company premises.
If he wants to groom people, groom them at his own time and not try to be a pervert while working for the company on company time.
The answer ... headbutt the bar(ista)-steweart! 😈
No, it is not hip!
No, it is not clever!
No, this is not your company!
No, your father does not own this company!
Where do you draw the line between being complimentary and flirting? people are so screwed up with things these days that common sense has all but disappeared.
'You look well today' or 'That's a nice dress/suit' - compliment/flirt/being civil? Who decides?
Neither of these would bother 99.9% of people but there is always someone who is a bit bat shit mental that will think wrong of things.
I wonder how people met and got involved in relationships in the past? At school i remember notes being passed between girls and boys, after leaving school striking up conversations seemed to work as did blatant flirting as did typical 'laddish' behaviour on holiday. None of which ever made the news.
All I got from that was that the Telegraph is a dreadful excuse for a newspaper
votchy - Member
Where do you draw the line between being complimentary and flirting?
You certainly Do Not go all the way to write message for someone ... that's crossing the line because you are putting extra efforts. i.e. like targeting your victim.
'You look well today' or 'That's a nice dress/suit' - compliment/flirt/being civil? Who decides?
That is fine so long as you do not go all the way to continue the conversation ... just smile and say nice dress/suit then move on.
If the customers do not initiate the conversation you keep mute! Simple!
I flirt all the time when out and about; my wife thinks it's quite amusing. Mind you she's pretty good at it too. We find it helps us get more of what we want
Now this does sound creepy.
If he wants to groom people, groom them at his own time and not try to be a pervert while working for the company on company time.
A PERVERT?!? That's a bit much. The guy (whose age we don't know, but as a barista, will not have been far off that of the girl's) wrote a message to her.
That's it. He thought she was attractive. I don't think that makes him a pervert. Good grief.
Now this does sound creepy.
But why? If being a bit flirty can help you get a slightly better deal, or service, what's the harm?
It's got me a couple of free extra doughnuts recently. 😉
IMO harassment only starts after you've made it clear you're not interested
This is a good rule. 🙂
Do Not go all the way to write message for someone ... that's crossing the line because you are putting extra efforts. i.e. like targeting your victim
This is a terrible rule.
If the customers do not initiate the conversation you keep mute! Simple!
Sarcasm?
I can imagine a load of LBS workers wanting to flog the latest £3k enduro bike but keeping schtum when a customer comes in as they don't want to be seen as a pervert.
But why? If being a bit flirty can help you get a slightly better deal, or service, what's the harm?It's got me a couple of free extra doughnuts recently
I dunno if you've ever watched The Apprentice, but if you have - you know those bits where the girls (in particular) shamelessly flirt with the shop owners to get 5p off some fish or whatever? That's you and your wife that is. 🙂
It's [i]really[/i] cringey - but whatever makes you happy I guess.
Women like the mother are the reason aliens won't talk to us and Jeremy Kyle has a TV show.
+1
you know those bits where the girls (in particular) shamelessly flirt with the shop owners to get 5p off some fish or whatever? That's you and your wife that is.
😆
You REALLY don't want to know what we do to get the price of fish lowered then...
It's really cringey - but whatever makes you happy I guess.
I'm not sure I understand what kind of image is going through your head? What do you think we do, when we 'flirt'? Show people our underwear? Do some form or ritual dance?
IMO harassment only starts after you've made it clear you're not interested
So if the recipient of the unwanted attention says nothing because you're her boss, then it's ok?
I put a time-lapse video on Flickr of me wheelbuilding. It's had one comment so far, a random stranger remarked "you are soft spoken."
Which is a bit odd.
Lad I worked with took a pic of himself having a **** in the works toilets and what's app it to a typist
He got sacked !
[quote=grum ]I dunno if you've ever watched The Apprentice, but if you have - you know those bits where the girls (in particular) shamelessly flirt with the shop owners to get 5p off some fish or whatever? That's you and your wife that is.
It's really cringey - but whatever makes you happy I guess.
What's that got to do with the price of fish?
Flirting with women you don't know is fine as long as you're not ugly, otherwise you're a potential rapist. 😆
I think the British are ridiculously repressed, I have a Spanish friend, she and all of her friends are very touch feely and flirty with pretty much every guy they meet. They just see it as harmless fun and a way socialising. It's either that or I being completely oblivious and missing out on a wild orgy.



