[Closed] Hope Vision 2 is upgradable

i was saying that i you'd be able to do that to our old hope led 2 lights

thats a hell of a jump in output - I think the older (all black casing) Vision 2s put out @300 lumen!

and the cost of such an upgrade??

Will it work with existing batteries, can I send mine next please 🙂

Ditto ^^ very interested.

Yep very interested in how much it'd be to get that done.

MEEEEEE TOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
PLEEEEEEESE!!!!!!! 😛
ps, how much? 🙂

Another interested party. Approximate cost?

OK some beamshots
I have set it up for 5 levels
starting at level 1 up to level 5

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Mr Trout,

how much to do this please?

Woah! Great work as usual Trout!

I don;t have an old vision two, however would still be interested in price, as I can get one cheap 🙂

How do the burn times compare?

Be very interested to know if this could be done with the vision 4 and if so how much

As the guys above, very interested.

I'm in (cost not withstanding).

Burn times will of course suffer if max power is used

no the hope 4 is a right bastid to modify and needs a new heatsink machining plus too much work to make it viable
I have only done 1 and it took 6 hours after which I vowed never again .

Your just teasing us now 😥
HOWWW MUUUUUCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Please......

Sorry I meant how do the burn times compare to the standard/pre-mod Vision 2?

I cant say as the hope I got seemed to not work
the battery is a normal 2 cell job so I would say maybe a 2.4 mah job

the light pulls 2.5 amps on mental
and each level below approximately halve the last level

maybe one of you owners could fill in the gap and say what runtime you get from the small battery

I get pretty much the full claimed 1:45 on "normal" High power on my Mk1 Vision 2s.
but I'm very interested in the upgrade.
[b]How much?[/b]

Normal run time would be about 1hr 40 on full, which i believe is 480lumen (not sure if this is actual or theoretical)

I would be very interested if you could turn mine into a max 1000 lumens
If that means I could use the same batteries which I have 2 of them so if they only lasted 1 hr each on full that would be great?

This was not a touting for business thread just a follow up to the other can hope 2s be upgraded thread.

it was more a yes it can here is how .

material costs were

Switch approx £6
Lflex driver £15
leds approx £6.5 each so £13
scrap of ali

2 hours work but probably 1 hour now I know what to do .

I reckon you can name your price 😉

Its a lovely little housing, but is now a little outdated/under-gunned compared to other lights. Upgrade service sounds superb. You ought to sell the service to Hope!

I'm also very interested 🙂

OK projected runtimes based on power draw from a 7.4 volt source
and the surmise that it is a 2.4 mah battery

level 1 only good for a commute light 60 hours
level 2 slightly better commuter light 11 hours
level 3 probably like the old leds 5 hours
level 4 2 hours 15 mins
level 5 just under an hour

So how much does an hour of your time cost Mr Trout?

I'm also very interested. Great work by the way 🙂

I'm interested too

So £90ish.....O.k.When?

I am interested too !

paul

And do you know if the very first joystick from USE can be updated?
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Juan

if you want to send it to me I will have a look and see

OK so here are a few approx stats

there is not a chance the light housing can take the leds to their maximum
so have been trying the lower drive currents to find a balance between heat and battery run time

running at 2 amps drive max

level 1 = 336 lumens approx runtime = 5 hours
level 2 = 790 lumens approx runtime = 2.5 hours
level 3 = 1344 lumens approx runtime = 1 hour

so ok if you have a big battery or 2 small ones .

turn the drive current down to 1.5 amps

level 1 - 280 lumens approx runtime = 7 hours
level 2 = 450 lumens approx run time = 3.hours
level 3 = 1036 lumens approx runtime = 1 hour 45 mins

Heat wise the driver will dim the light to level 1 if it gets to 60c
not very likely in our evenings when moving along but it does dim dow quite fast sat on my desk

I have enough drivers to do 19 conversions
with no more available until mid november

Hi trout
Very interested in the second option?
How much?
Jonny

I will wait till summer but doubling the 480 output sounds like a great idea to me. Nice one 🙂

Payment in Yorkshire Tea and Fat Rascals?

Hell Conrad I am heavy enough as it is with out stuffing fat rascals 😉

would trade for tea and coffee though

trout I've emailed you re: a Lupine Passubio (halogen) to LED conversion. Happy to be the guinea pig for a conversion experiment and I think there were a few other people interested for this lamp too. My email's in profile.

Hi wwaswas
sorry my inbox overfloweth and is a disaster area

will go and find your mail now .

Is now waiting in anticipation for what's comming for my AYUP can upgrades!!! If you can fix the wiring I mashed when I pulled the cans apart first !!! 🙁

Foxy

Fixed 😀 now just waiting for some glue to cure
then to reassemble and in the post latest monday might get tomorrows post if I get all the jobs Mrs T 😥 has lined up for me done ok and back into the shed.

Awesome Trout 🙂 Many thanks - can wait to see the results !!!! 🙂

just in time for the clocks and my commuter 🙂

Mail me with how much I owe you of course 🙂

Thanks again - really appreciate it 🙂

I'd be very interested in a passubio conversion too

Its a more than doubling of output. The original black hope 2's were no where close to 480 lumen! The newer version ([url= http://www.hopegb.com/voir_visled.html ]http://www.hopegb.com/voir_visled.html[/url]) is 480lmn the original is either 240lmn or 300lmn.

Trout, I think the 2 versions have a different housing so this upgrade might only be good for the older version (unless you have a newer one to test with too). The battery is also definitely a 2400mah one.

For those with Passubios - I've had an email chat with trout and will be sending him my lamp unit as he thinks he can do it from the pics I sent him. He's got to wait for some bits to arrive which may be a week or two away before he can do it though. Would end up with 1300-1500 Lumens, I think.

Thanks Nixie I have just been looking on ebay for the hope 2 and realised the casing had changed though looking it may be the same inside
anyone with one care to open it up and post some pics would be good.

looks to be better heat wise on the pics

I will post up pics when Wwaswas`s light gets done .
might need to make some heatsinks for it but looks nice and smoothe inside

While you're at it can you also knock together something that will make the unit quick to change between a helmet and handlebar mount? I know it currently only involves and allen bolt but feel that the current mountings are a bit carp

Anyone upgraded a vision one?

With the mark2 version both the front and the back unscrew and the leds are in a black Hope circuit board/mounting. Didn't delve too fas I am worried I'll break it. The lens looks the same, as do the switch and the gland for the wire.

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Thanks Tomaso

Looks a better design than the early one with better heat path to the outside.

from what I can see there is room for the driver in the back where hope have theirs so no worries there .

the front my be a bit more involved as the leds are on a thin board so may have a clearance problem
but the XMLs are smaller domes than the old Luxions so may counter that

Looks good to go and can always mill off a mm if needed

Trout, ygm re. a Hope Vision 2 Mark 1 upgrade.

Folks,
FYI, just got a quote from Troute for the conversion. Not sure if I'm supposed to say how much it is but lets just say that Rorschach's estimate on about the 30th post (see page 1 of thread) is pretty much £20 on the high side. I'll let you find the other post and do the maths 😉

Seems good value to me.

And me, posted mine off this morning, am excited now 😀 sad as that is.....

Only 2 arrived today one old and one the new shape .
the old one was DOA so still cant get a beam shot but have done the upgrade on it
and will get a comparison shot against the new stock light tonight .

in the garage the upgraded is a fair bit floodier than the newer stock one

The new shape I have opened to have a look and it will need some machining in the led cavity and a spacer making .

the back driver cavity will be no problems

Posted my older version this morning, can't wait till it comes back 😀

nice night for a walk with my daughter and the lumen hound though the smell was a bit strong the farmer had been spraying slurry today and boy did it hum .
poor pooch had to have a bath before being allowed in the house why do they have to roll in it.

anyways on to the beam shots

first up is the stock new shape Hope not a bad beam and I suspect a different optic in there certainly different leds to the old hope.
the hope has 4 levels so i have missed out the very lowest
starting at level 2

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level 3
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level 4
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upgraded hope early model

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and just for fun my little dog walking light

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Excellent work could i get the bits from you to have a bash myself trout?

Excellent work could i get the bits from you to have a bash myself trout?

Yes for sure drop me a mail

I didn't get mine in the post after all as I needed it this evening for a blast across the moors.
It'll be in the post on monday.

🙂

Mail sent troutie

Trout I mailed you about having a play with my Maxx D following a conversation on here a month or two ago. Not sure if you got it? Would be keen if you're up for it.

I have to ask! What the hell is that "dog walking" light?

How much will the Mk. 2 light cost to convert?

Thanks
Grim

juan - I want to upgrade my MkII Joystick too. I know how to open it but because its already night ride season I've not got round to actually doing it. I was planning on just swapping over the P4 for an XPG and changing the battery whilst I'm at it.

Mark 2 will cost the same but mean more work

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Need to machine off the pillars and then make a spacer or make a polo shaped spacer .

Bol would like a look some time to see what is possible
but as you can imagine am pretty rushed this week .

Parksie some bits in a parcel for you to play with

There's no rush. I'll give you a shout in a few weeks time.

Sweeet should be fun will try to remember to take before and after beam shots. Hopefully the after beam shots wont just be darkness 😆

thats four done and on their way back I Hope the owners are enlightened 🙄

Hi Trout

Can you anything with Light and Motion ARC lights as mine has given up the ghost?

Harrison

If i am correct the ARC is made from plastic so no good for an upgrade to high power leds .

Parksie you should be getting your bits today so I have done a little
blog diy destructions

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hi Troutie, I won't charge you a modelling fee if those beam shots came from my[b] lamp, which you used for pics in your diy guide 😀 they look great.

good to talk yesterday and can't wait for tonights ride, fingers crossed the postman delivers it ok.

will post a review in the next few days.

trout - great how to guide 🙂

my Passubio goes in post today.

Modified Mk II arrived back this morning, thanks Mr T.

Just had a play in the kitchen and nearly blinded myself! Will try to get out for a blast this eve., family commitments allowing.

APF

Great DIY there Chris - beat the post in this morning but thanks for the work on my AYUPs - very much appreciated - 🙂

Mines here, posted 11am Saturday, got here at 9am, WOOHOO!! 😆
I feel like it's Christmas already 😀 cheers Chris

Im all excited waiting for my bits 1st to arrive was towbar then a door panel fitted all that lot wheres that post man got the soldering iron warmed up ready.

Troutie - many thanks for the AYUP fix and Smudge Battery - spot on and the battery fits very nicely in the old AYUP pouch (is also more compact!!) Super bright as well 🙂

1x little box of tricks arrived 🙂 can i hold out on doing the work before getting the before beam shots?