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So my wife is an intelligent, rational woman most of the time. In fact, she's a doctor and an academic, so is very capable of analysing data and coming to an opinion. However, when it comes to the safety of our child, she turns into a very irrational being. He's 3 months old and she's very much taken on the role of protector. Every choice in life has to be considered for its potential impact on the boy's health.
She's convinced electromagnetic (EM) radiation is somehow harmful to him. This all started when we were reading reviews of baby monitors. I suggest you NEVER do this, for many reasons, but principally because you'll read a load of links to quack websites about EM causing vague health symptoms and / or cancer. Of course, there is no evidence to back up these ideas, but every article published seems to have the problem that it's impossible to prove a negative and that 'further work is required in this area'. For every scientific article there is that proves no link to cancer (which according to one review amounts to approx 26,000 peer-reviewed articles), there is another page on a dubious pseudo-science website called something like "Responsible-health.com" that looks real but actually contains thinly-veiled complete bollocks. She never did physics at school, so glazes over when I mention things like the inverse square law. I think it's fair to say she has even less of a clue about this than I do.
If it was just a thought process, it'd be OK but it's having some pretty significant consequences. For example, in the last month:
- All of the cordless phones are unplugged and replaced with corded ones. OK, not a huge deal but a bit messy, and an unnecessary expense.
- I've bought a new router (which is amazing) so we have a big argument about whether 2 channel routers are doubly-harmful and whether 5GHz is worse than the old 2.4GHz. Of course neither of us really know what it means. Fortunately she's letting the router stay for now.
- She'd rather not use the baby monitor. It's got a breathing sensor that works really well and potentially reduces the risk of SIDS (a definite risk), but we leave it turned off in case it's irradiating him (no proven risk).
- She's bought 2 more baby monitors, which she read somewhere have lower radiation. They don't, according to the product specification. I point this out and we now have three redundant monitors 🙄 An expensive habit.
- Most infuriatingly, I can't remember the last day where she [i]didn't[/i] send me a link to a quack website harping on about the risks of wifi, and products that are available to alleviate the symptoms / risks. Shortly followed by an argument. I feel like we might be on the verge of a full scale WiFi ban at home.
Anyway, this is kind of a serious thing, and I genuinely want help from you people. I am at a loss to know what I can say or do that will help, and it's genuinely causing problems for us. I love her (and the boy) but I just get exasperated by this and consequently I'm sure I'm not acting in the best way to defuse this situation. I've tried ignoring the situation, I've tried counter-argument. I've even tried extreme sarcasm. Nothing works. By the way, apart from the obvious sleep deprivation, everything else is fine - I don't think she's depressed / psychotic or anything.
Maybe I'm over-exaggerating. Maybe it's not a big deal. I'm not really sure what I want you to say. Maybe some helpful links to articles that she can read. Maybe some tips for me to deal with this. Suggestions of other things for her to worry about (She got sidetracked for a few hours with articles on internet grooming, but that didn't last very long).
I guess it's kind of amusing to laugh at, but this is a genuine problem and, well, I'd prefer it if flippant comments could be kept to a minimum.
Fire away.
tin foil cot ?
(I'm not entirely joking)
Play the long game, ride it through for a year and it will be over and you'll have other worries
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Play the long game, ride it through for a year and it will be over and you'll have other worries
this,
I cant see any way you are going to win this one
I'd be more worried about her mental health than the baby, that kind of obsession doesn't sound healthy.
Not sure I can offer any help, but has she found any credible research reported in actual medical or science journals? Did you point out that you can't escape from wifi signals these days, regardless of what you do with your own devices? How would she react to that?
Are you sure she doesn't have post-natal depression? That can cause all kinds of anxieties about caring for the baby, some of them irrational. The only thing I can really suggest is to keep an eye on her and see if she develops any more irrational fears relating to the baby, as it could be post-natal mental health issue.
This will help you visualize what goes on inside a head lacking the Y chromosome 😛
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What about all the electromagnetic radiation from the sun??
Its strange that all these pseudo bollocks sites are all trying to get you to buy something on their fantastically reviewed research which funnily enough is all unpublished and not peer reviewed.
[quote=bencooper ]I'd be more worried about her mental health than the baby, that kind of obsession doesn't sound healthy.+1
Fix it now or you'll not be able to go anywhere with the baby - "as there's wifi everywhere"
1) she's wrong.
2) we covered a lot of this here recently: http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/just-annoyed-one-of-the-neighbours-mobile-phone-mast-content
3) if we assume EM radiation is a problem, we're all doomed. The universe is full of background radiation to start with, and that aside, look at radio.
Sunscreen for the baby... Cuts out those harmful rays...
Sunscreen for the baby... Cuts out those harmful rays...
Even the wifi?
It's tough. You can point out that there are thirty other WiFi access points visible but it won't make any difference. I would do all to calm your wife for the moment as first babies are quite scary and relaxed parents trump all other effects. Things will change as other priorities come up.
I have some friends who are convinced that WiFi is bad for them and there is no amount of numbers that you can show to compare it with the 100s of mobile phones that might be in the same room giving of radiation in all sorts of frequency bands. I just unplug wifi when they are there and they are happy and it causes me no problems
Edit: If you have to discuss it then you might want to go down the line of pointing out that hospitals have 100s of WiFi access points in them and there is no way they around be doing that if there was any evidence of problems. But for the moment it may be safer to leave it
*urge to link to the 'I'm getting poor wife reception' thread as an example of what you'll have to do if WiFi is banned*
I do RF Hazard assessments as part of my job. SOME wi-fi routers i've seen come with a warning to state you shouldn't work within ~20cm of them, purely aimed at people sat working next to them all day.
Wi-Fi doesn't have the energy to mess with the atomic make-up of our cells, the worst it could possibly do* is heat us up.
*(we think)
Not sure I can offer any help, but has she found any credible research reported in actual medical or science journals?
Of course not - there isn't any! The closest you get are a handful of review articles pointing out that although it's extremely unlikely, there remain some unknowns. Of course, these sorts of statements get seized upon by quacks.
Did you point out that you can't escape from wifi signals these days, regardless of what you do with your own devices? How would she react to that?
Badly, I'd imagine. I haven't pointed out the risks of cosmic radiation for fear that we'd never go outside. A few weeks ago she was [i]only[/i] worried about baby monitors until I pointed out that phones and Wifi were basically the same and she's now paranoid about all of them.
As I say, I really don't think it's a depression thing. She's not in a bad mood, she's eating normally, sleeping well when possible. I guess it's the definition of an over-valued idea neurosis, but it does seem to be in isolation with no other signs of any mental health issues as far as I can tell.
I can't believe I'm even entertaining the idea of a tin foil crib...
It's an odd thing that happens to some parents. My mate's wife is a well respected biology teacher in a top independent school. She gives her kids homeopathic medicine and won't let them play rough.
In every other way she's completely rational. I'm very fortunate that my partner hasn't adopted any of these quirks.
So, no help really, other than for you to know you're not alone. 😕
I'd prefer it if flippant comments could be kept to a minimum
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Remind her of the inverse square law and if need be stick some Faraday cages or EMR shields between the baby and any emitters, whilst you wait for your wife to adopt a more logical standpoint (could take a while). At least she hasn't developed a fear of falling asleep because of the baby often waking her for a feed just after that point - I'm currently trying to solve that!
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Sounds like a lack of sleep to me.
Good Lord. One of my ideas was going to be to show this thread to the wife and hope she sees a barrage of sensible thoughts. But now I just fear that I'll be paying for extortionate shipping on a silly designer tin foil hat.
Argh, these people make me so angry, the way they prey on poor paranoid souls.
Wifi definitely is harmful. Just look at all these people who can't stop messing with their phones. No wifi, they do it less. Science.
I don't mean to sound flippant here but where is she doing her research, the Internet? Turn off the WiFi, no more research, no more obsession. Like yours, my wife is an intelligent doctor but give her 10min on Google and all hell can break lose. If she is worried about something, she will find the evidence to support that worry
I genuinely do sympathise though, the human mind can be a strange thing.
Most parents can be a bit funny about their first born. By the time you get to three kids you barely remember to feed them, let alone worry about WiFi.
Good luck.
I know it's a cliche, but... us blokes (at least most of us on here) want to be all rational and analytical about stuff like this. That's not going to help here, as your wife isn't interested in analytical explanations. About the best idea I can come up with is that she might take the advice of an authority figure she trusts - is there any such person you could get to talk to her who would explain that it's all OK, that it's reasonable and normal to be worried about such things, but that her concerns are unfounded?
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The fear based economy, just what would you do with yourself if it turned out that you didn't pay all the money you had to protect against non existent threats...
The ex's sister was in the world will kill us mentality, there was no arguing really. You could prove things but the ah but, they would say that, not conclusive, always doubt crap that seems to fill the internet came out
WiFi - firmly in the non ionizing section
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Sorry OP - if your wife does come here can I just point out that the things on that site are the most pointless things ever.
Is she a doctor as in GP, or say a doctor in another academic field?
I was going to suggest cognitive behavioural therapy, however this would require full commitment from your wife to participate, which may be the biggest hurdle if she is unwilling to acknowledge the issues you are both having.
She's a doctor as in hospital doctor. She thinks I'm being laissez-faire about our son's health, and says I'm naive and arrogant for assuming I know the risks 😥
Honestly your buggered then.
Get your own obsession about fluoride in baby food or something, something really ridiculous, show her how silly she's being.
Or try to push the obsessive impulse into something of actual benefit to your child. I would start talking to her about attachment theory, see if she picks that up, as there are millions of articles on Google about it, and it can only result in a happier baby...
[quote=Superficial ]She's a doctor as in hospital doctor.
So does she understand the concept of peer reviewed research, or is she rejecting that, despite I presume having been taught about it? It saddens me that somebody intelligent who should have been trained in assessing research is unable to process the information properly.
I know that's not helpful, but I come back to my suggestion before - if that's what she is, there ought to be somebody she respects the opinions of who has a sensible perspective on this.
Is the "breathing monitor" hard wired to the main unit ? i.e is it a hard mat that you slip under baby ( this is what we use)
As we are all on the same floor we don't have the remote monitor switched on ( I lost the base charger for it anyway), and can hear the alarm when it occasionally goes off.
Like you say , SIDS is a far bigger risk then anything else you mentioned
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Seriously though, i think you're on to a loser here. Just turn the router off, you could get her to go round to next door and ask them to move their routers to the other side of the house or something.
This is not about the WiFi, she is anxious. If you try and reason with her it will make it worse.
The best thing you can do is change the topic and encourage her to focus on something else - exercise, meditation, knitting etc.. Ultimately she needs cognitive therapy. I went through this after our boy was very ill in week two and my wife became very anxious about many things harming him.
I edited my post out because in hindsight it sounded flippant
I think she needs help or at least someone to help her see she's being irrational
Good luck.
A female relative had something similar when she had her first child, a boy.
She kept on obsessing that something bad would happen to him.
Prob a combination of OCD and anxiety, it passed after a year or so.
I so sympathise with the OP; even at the age of 57 my wife comes out wth some remarkaby ill-advised worries, which she usually mentions to me after lights-out when I'm just drifting off. It's not just a female thing; we all have a need to worry about something or other and we tend to focus on irrational fears until something else comes along. I'm currently on a multi-country Africa trip and every country brings new worries, mostly concerned with airports and catching flights.
My brother in the USA is married to an American who is highly-strung to put it mildly; she and her friends take tranquillisers and see therapists regularly to deal with their paranoia, which seems mostly to be inspired by the media. Almost very week my bro emails me in exasperation at the latest crazy phobia. They have spent extortionate amounts of money on alternative therapies and weird pseudo-religions in an attempt to find peace. It's a big industry in the USA.
She'd rather not use the baby monitor. It's got a breathing sensor that works really well
What make/model?
I feel your pain. I'm really liking the tin foil cot/Faraday cage cot idea. Maybe it will satisfy her or make her realise how mad she's being. Either way you get the monitor back on.
*flippant comment ahead*
Get her on the anti-vax websites. Take her mind off the Wi-Fi thing.
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Sounds totally bonkers, but you aren't going to cure her irrational anxiety using rational discussion.
In the first few months with our baby all I can remember is my wife being pretty exhausted, emotionally drained and and severely hormonal. There were a few anxieties but things did pass - it probably took 7 or 8 months for us. It's worth keeping in mind that it's likely your wife is going through a hard time physically and mentally post child birth and it will take time to get back to the new normal.
It might be worth giving it some time and seeing if it improves as you settle down with the baby. If the anxiety moves on to something else or starts seriously impacting your lives then probably time to seek help. With her being a doctor, good luck with that.
Best of luck as its a difficult situation at a difficult time (vickypea's comments above) made harder by fact that she is probably correct. Wifi is the tobacco of our generation - it just takes time for that to sink in.
Wifi is the tobacco of our generation - it just takes time for that to sink in
Despite there being lots of evidence that was suppressed or ignored on tobacco and none on WiFi. Look at where it is on the em spectrum if living next to TV masts and phone towers does nothing WiFi ain't either...
+1 for VickyPea's post. WiFi isn't the thing to discuss. Explore the underlying reasons it's an espoused concern. Refuting the 'dangers' of WiFi will achieve nothing except perhaps diminishing the OP's apparent empathy. Though I can understand the concern about excessive expenditure on baby monitors. Wired ones are best: great audio quality; time-consuming installation; reduced chance of snooping.
Having said that, there's a strong and actually dangerous source of damaging radiation around. Though we don't see it that often. When we're outside some of its invisible radiation reaches us all the time it's in the sky: that deadly, and life-giving, sun.
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[i]This is not about the WiFi[/i]
This.
At least as a doctor she *should* be ok with the concept and risks of vaccination.
For the great wi-fi switch off you can just up the data allowance on your phone and tether stuff to that when the wi-fi's not running, not being vaccinated lasts for ever.
Couldn't eat whole one.
Am I going to get it trouble for saying that breathing sensors to make sure the thing hasn't stopped breathing are also a bit paranoid compulsive?
We just slept with the thing next to us or inbetween us, and poked it occasionally.
For the great wi-fi switch off you can just up the data allowance on your phone and tether stuff to that when the wi-fi's not running, not being vaccinated lasts for ever.
As long as she doesn't find out that the tethering uses WiFi (or Bluetooth) and the mobile is also sending radiation back and forth to the cell tower.
[i]As long as she doesn't find out that the tethering uses WiFi (or Bluetooth) and the mobile is also sending radiation back and forth to the cell tower.[/i]
shhh!
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As has been said, this isn't about being rational.
the baby spent the entire gestation being exposed to wi-fi and mobile phone signals (plus whatever other stuff's floating around in the average NHS establishment) any harm to it's fragile developing body and mind has long been done...
It does sound like your wife is using the WiFi issues as a manifestation of underlying anxiety concerns. Speaking from personal experience, I wouldn't be so quick as to dismiss post-natal depression as it can occur in ways that are not immediately obvious or detectable.
[quote=teamhurtmore ]Best of luck as its a difficult situation at a difficult time (vickypea's comments above) made harder by fact that she is probably correct. Wifi is the tobacco of our generation - it just takes time for that to sink in.
You're far from being an expert on this, and scaremongering comments like that are far from being helpful. And you're wrong, as evidenced by the weight of research showing the harmful effects of tobacco and the lack of such harmful effects of Wifi.
As I say, I really don't think it's a depression thing. She's not in a bad mood, she's eating normally, sleeping well when possible.
Depression or other mental health issues can manifest in all sorts of ways other than a "bad mood".
Right up till the day when I totally "lost my potatoes" I was in an artificially constructed good mood to conceal my true feelings from everyone around me, especially those closest to me.
The pressure to maintain an image of calm competency is huge, especially, I would imagine, to a doctor.
I've also never lost a single nights sleep or missed a meal either.
It's a whole lot more subtle and complex than that.
Just sayin'.... she might not be coping with being a parent, a wife and a doctor as well as it appears.
Depression or other mental health issues can manifest in all sorts of ways other than a "bad mood".
+1 always watch the happy ones...
She is not rational.
Trying to fix her with rational suggestions wont work.
(Think how much worse it will get when you buy your kid its first bike)
You need to get her to see an expert who can fix her. Talk to your doctor first and see if they can suggest someone.
As suggested, it doesn't sound wholly about the Wi-Fi. God knows how you get to the underlying issue though - good luck with that.
Could you have a temporary compromise though, whereby you only turn the router on when you actually need to use the Wi-Fi?
Although this might confirm to her that you also believe there are issues with the Wi-Fi.
I'd be more worried about her mental health than the baby
This exactly, plenty of people out there are naturally hard of thinking but it sounds like your wife is not one of those.
stick the router in the loft and change it's details. when she 'can't get a signal' just say you decided that although you think she's wrong, you thought you should be more supportive, and decided that as she's so concerned about wifi radiation you'd remove any cause for concern.
see if she changes her opinion when she can't look at the internet at speed without being tethered to something.
don't get caught.
yes, i'm single.
You need to get her to see an expert who can fix her. Talk to your doctor first and see if they can suggest someone.
And here in lies a problem. I don't want to make assumptions about your wife but my experience here is that trying to convince a medic to seek advice from another medic is [s]really hard[/s] impossible, especially when it is mental health related. To do that she would first need to accept there is something wrong, and medics are not too good at admitting they may be wrong, ill or in need of help from other people. There is then the issue of them being part of the medical community so they know all of the other medics/nurses/admin staff/porters in the local hospital and services so the privacy that you or I may enjoy is not in place for them. There is a terrible suicide rate in General Practice as GP's are so reluctant to ask for help. Please don't think I am suggesting that is the path your wife will take, I just state that as evidence of the problem in the medical community.
If you wife is like mine I would be inclined to quietly sit it out until she hopefully moves onto something else. Plenty of talking about it, as well as her general feelings, is a good thing. The BMA also run a [i]medics to medics[/i] helpline that she, or you, may find helpful. they are just as happy to speak to relatives and, I know, are extremely supportive.
So my wife is an intelligent, rational woman most of the time. In fact, she's a doctor and an academic
I'd disagree with your statement given her job and the rest of the information in your post lol
Best that I can suggest is, given that she is a doctor and academic, pick something from her speciality that she knows a lot about and find a ton of bogus and misleading information about it from quack websites. Ideally on the same sites she is quoting to you.
I'm thinking of a conversation along the lines of:
Her: [i]"According to natural-nonsense.com any wifi within 3 miles can cause your baby to develop an extra head."[/i]
You: [i]"That's interesting. I see natural-nonsense.com also say that you can cure diabetes by rubbing beetroot juice on your balls."[/i]
But as others have said, I agree there is more going on here than a misunderstanding of the science and risks.
Good luck.
It sounds like there is some underlying issues, sorry to hear. I suffer from anxiety and have done for several years. I am a well-educated and reasonably well balanced person but still will find irrational concepts entirely rational and they will become my mental focus despite all attempts to convince me they are irrational by either professionals or friends and family. Sometimes the process of convincing can actually exacerbate the issue because it becomes acknowledged and the timescale it takes to deal with it allows more time to dwell.
My point being that I have been able to share all of this with my wife and when the anxieties become more prevalent she can take the tough love role and tell me straight what it is.
I appreciate the first time may be hard but have you had a long and straight talk with your wife? Almost pulling no punches to try and get to the nub of the issue?
A Faraday cage was suggested earlier; perhaps if you were to get hold of some chicken wire and construct one around the cot (covering sharp edges of course) it would help visualise how she is trying to seal baby away from the world and the wifi is the focal point of that anxiety?
She's a doctor as in hospital doctor. She thinks I'm being laissez-faire about our son's health, and says I'm naive and arrogant for assuming I know the risks
The best form of defence is attack!
She is being stupid, you need to show her that she is being stupid.
Start discussing concerns about the babies vaccinations, and begin emailing her daily with links talking about the risks of vaccination to children.
Don't accept any evidence to the contrary and stand by your 'better safe than sorry' and 'we can't be sure' arguments till you are blue in the face
The internal contradictions here will cause your wife's brain to reset to default, or possibly explode (or somehow blame you for everything)
Perfect
(Edit: GrahamS, great minds think etc.)
Don't argue the toss. As others have said, it's much more likely to be a sign of an underlying anxiety than a rational assessment of risk. If you argue, you'll only end up doing something like pointing out that next door's wifi is still pounding your baby, and make the irrational response stronger.
Wait it out, be ultra-supportive for now, keep an eye out for any other unusual behaviours.
The internal contradictions here will cause your wife's brain to reset to default, or possibly explode...
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It both is and is not about the WiFi . successful human mothers are the hyper vigilant ones who protect their offspring and anticipate and avoid danger acting even on false danger signals and bad feelings. So her responses are hardwired and hormonal ,rational argument and objective evidence won't help .
Support and space may do. I have my own irrational and rational fears for my child being a bloke I grunt and shove them to the back of my mind my biological role is to hit the threat with a big stick or delay it by being eaten while the wife scurrys off with the baby , so rational thought may assist but emotion will hamper my function.
I'm not convinced that pandering to her flights of fancy is the way to go; switching off the router etc is just enabling her paranoia.
Not that I've any better ideas, mind.
This is a tough one. Lots of our friends latched onto things like this. Using talc = cervical cancer, microwaving the bottles to sterilise them = brain cancer, etc. I think you have to nip it in the bud or it can become a massive thing forever.
How you go about it? I personally would have the repeated arguments, using "unsubstantiated risks of 2.4Ghz vs very real risk of baby being sick and choking" as my main ammo. But then I know my wife would be stubborn up to a point and then give in when no immediate harm comes to baby.
If all else fails you could buy a 20m network cable from eBay and just roll it out from your router to use with a laptop when you need internet access. Or compromise by just turning WiFi on when you are using the internet?
In the long run, the simple daily inconvenience of no WiFi may well overcome unfounded fears about its use.
My wife can be a bit over protective of our son but mostly OK now - I would always argue though and say she needed to show me something on the NHS site about whatever she was worrying about, if it's there then I'll accept it.
Here's a few or hers - she seems to have forgotten about the top 3 now though:
Take own sheets to hotels
Wash underpants on their own
Avoid cow milk
Not eat eggs when have a cold
Must have bright light on to read
Must keep TV/Hi-Fi volume low
It does sound like first baby anxiety and unfortunately (IME) this then transfers onto the child as they grow up... Chilled mothers make chilled children who become less-neurotic as adults.
How to deal with it? You'll know best how to deal with it.
The trouble is using logic for an emotional issue. Perhaps appeal to her emotional side with a similar rationale rather than deal with it head on...
e.g. children brought up in a germ free existence tend to get more allergies; ergo children should be allowed to play in & eat mud.
Change name of wifi to the neighbours address, change password so her phone doesn't connect.
Tell her you have turned the wifi off, then just use it to your hearts content.
Tell her you have turned the wifi off, then just use it to your hearts content.
That will work until the first notification goes ping on the wifi-only tablet.
Seriously, lying to her at this point is not a good plan even if it would seem to bring short term peace.
Girl in my office has no wifi at home for similar reasons, she is great at her job really smart cookie just has a few quirks.
from experience , women latch onto certain safety fears,
eg cats and dogs are dangerous to kids,
single men are dangerous to kids,
any man is dangerous to children, except a teacher who as has been proved numerous times doesnt feel any attraction to children,
power tools/noise/dust/workmen/
not being able to park within 10 foot of the front door,just incase somebody attacks or steals the kids,
not allowing any child to climb, fight, chat to strangers, walk to school,or to any club un escorted,
no one must smoke within 200 feet of HER child,
and lots more, wifi is just another to add to the list.
Tell her you have turned the wifi off, then just use it to your hearts content. But turn off notifications on everything!
Sorted.
I think we have about 8 things including the telly that connect to our wi-fi.
Mums tend to be mental, as someone has already stated they are wired to protect kids from Sabre Tooth tigers and wolves.
We don't have that now so they start on other stuff like Wi-Fi and Vaccinations.
for those suggesting disguising the wifi, dont, you will be caught with some kind of data connection, which you will have to pass off as 3/4G
show her the ionising/non-ionising chart and agree to cut the 2.4GHz in favour of the 5GHz as thats obviously betterer.
There really are almost no women left on this forum, are there ?
I hope you manage to get through this, we are expecting our first in June ( after a couple of horrific miscarriages) and I fear my Mrs will be a bit like this due to the last couple of years. I can offer little advice bar try to (like all arguments) reach some level of compromise that satisfies her and keeps you sane.
we had 2 friends who unfortunately both went like this with having kids, she was a Masters Qualified HR professional and he was a PhD in Science who worked for a pharma company for petes sake, both clever, rational people
They now are only homeschooling, home birthed (1 hour from a hospital) don't use SOAP!!, only drink purified water out of glass bottles or mainly drink from springs, ant vac, breastfeeding when the kid is 4, don't own a TV, still sleep with the kid, forage for food etc. Its a bizarre thing to see and they have become really separate from our group of friends but they (seem) happy...
(an he still works for said pharma co..)