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[Closed] Colleague keeps switching off the WIFI as it 'makes her feel ill'

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One of my colleagues (small family run business with five os us in total in the office) keeps switching off the work WIFI as it apparently makes her feel ‘wooly, tired and confused’. Now, most of the time this isnt a problem as we have a network and can use 4G for phones and such, but occasionally I need the WIFI to work on specific work projects. Today she asked me if I could re-schedule when I do these works so that it coincides with when we have a contractor visiting who has no ethernet connection on her computer, thus meaning the WIFI has to be on.

I’m trying to be as co-operative as possible and as open minded as can be, but is this just her being ‘particular’ or is it a real thing. Can she really feel these effects? If she thought the WIFI was off, would she even notice it being on?

We had a recent conflict in the office and the following day she brought in a large white crystal egg thing which was apparently to ‘soak up the negative energy’ and proudly placed it on the end of her desk and between the two bickering parties to ward away such things. She also has a collection of shiny stones and herbs in her desk...

Am I being intolerant, or is the WIFI turning me gaga?!

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 1:49 pm
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Can you say you've turned it off and then not do so to see if she notices?

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 1:50 pm
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Is this colleague an influential member of said family?

Make her a tin foil hat for Christmas.

Beat her at her own game - buy her this and claim it on exes.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Protection-Anti-Radiation-Simulated-Absorption/dp/B075L2DDH6

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 1:51 pm
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leave it on but stop broadcasting ssid (so she can't tell obvs)

also suggest she watches better call saul

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 1:52 pm
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Move WiFi router to hidden spot
Plug in a disabled/non working route in its place and leave it turned off.
Hippy bullshit.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 1:53 pm
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Can you say you've turned it off and then not do so to see if she notices?

... and similarly say that it's on when it's not.

Basically no she won't be able to tell and it's all nonsense.

Putting that egg between the two parties probably did work to stop the arguments, just not quite in the way that she may think.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 1:55 pm
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Or run a 20ft ethernet cable across to your desk. Problem solved.

 
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Must be why they don’t have WiFi for patients in York Hospital, were ill enough, don’t need that to add to the issues

Reminds me of an ex team leader who was so happy after a desk move at work, within the same room, as her Internet/pc in general was running faster afterwards. It was connected to the same network, via Ethernet, but it definitely worked better after the move 🙄

She was also always surprised by sunset, and the time thereof ‘oh look how dark/light (season dependant) it is at this time!!’

And was convinced that the phases of the moon affected people in the same way it has an effect the tides ‘well it must do, as we are 70% water!’

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 1:56 pm
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[i]she brought in a large white crystal egg thing which was apparently to ‘soak up the negative energy’ and proudly placed it on the end of her desk[/i]

😆 brilliant. She nose her technology obvs.

(still laughing imagining this)

(and again) 😆

 
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tell her you can feel it too and that's it causing you to lightly smack her on both chops, whilst taunting 'chop smack chop smack' in time with the smacks.
a ****ing egg? are you kidding me

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 1:58 pm
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Hippy bullshit.

This

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:01 pm
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Vegan!

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:02 pm
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[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Radio_Quiet_Zone ]Offer to re-locate her desk?[/url]

Mostly these folk tend to suggest that they can feel the electromagnetic emissions from these devices. Ask her if she's at all made unwell by the giant yellow, electromagnetic ball of continuous thermo-nuclear explosions she can see in the sky...

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:07 pm
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Show her this.

It will BLOW. HER. MIND.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:08 pm
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Having given this careful thought and consideration, I think the best thing to do would be to tell her to **** off.

Idiot.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:09 pm
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A few years ago I was lucky enough to go to Machu Pichu. Amazing place. Stunning.

In one part one of the big'ol stones, probably 10ft square and 4ft thick, that had been part of the walls had fallen off said wall and was lying on the ground. It was surrounded by people holding their hands over it because, apparently "you can really feel the power coming off it".

They were a bit miffed when my other half, in her bestest West Yorkshire accent, commented quite loudly that it was "just a ****ing stone"

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:11 pm
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it's a funny one. I know people like that but I've never been able to find any results of tests that say it is measureable. There is nothing to stop you temporarily plugging in a second access point elsewhere if necessary

Or even better, buy a 5GHz router and say it is on a different frequency that doesn't affect people

 
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No it's actual-factual-real stuff. I saw a documentary on it once and they had some woman on there who lived miles from anywhere in a completely tech free house because everything electronic made her incredibly ill very quickly, reducing her to a vomiting shivering wreck. I was amazed she coped with the full film crew in honesty.

 
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Ask her to prove when its on..

We had a similar thing when we installed a mobile phone site in an office, after a week we got a call from the MD Saying his staff have gone off sick due to radiation.

We went back there to show him the fact that the RBS hadn't been installed thus far, only the Antennas, and they weren't live..

A few hasty phonecalls were made.. 🙄

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:12 pm
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🙂 at TTS

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:14 pm
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[url= https://hibiscusmooncrystalacademy.com/crystals-lower-emf-risks/ ]Buy her one of these[/url] and she'll be happy.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:17 pm
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Strike a deal with her. For ten days in a row either have the router on or off but don't let her see it. Get her to record whether she feels ill or not.

If she correctly matches up her (imaginary) symptoms with the days the router is on then fair enough. If she doesn't, then tell her to jog on.

I hate all that tie dye, unwashed hair, wifi fearing, sensitive, self absorbed, positive energy, earth vibes, vegan, smell of yeast bullshit.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:20 pm
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I do sometimes wonder about all that data whizzing around in the air that we have these days. It's pretty bonkers.
I just stream some music to my bluetooth headphones to relax and get away from it all.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:22 pm
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Take the router apart and remove the Wi-Fi status LED.

The air is full of EM radiation, from things like radio broadcasts and mobile phone antennae to the background stuff that would be there in the first place. Visible light is EM radiation. If she was really sensitive to it then she'd be very ill indeed.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:33 pm
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Tell her that she is welcome to work in the car park.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:46 pm
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EDIT: beaten to it! 😀

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:51 pm
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When I search for WiFi on my phone for instance my phone displays several possible WiFi sources from which I choose the relevant one to connect too.

Is your WiFi connection the only one that can be found in the office, if not tell her so she can feel permanently ill.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:52 pm
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Does she live in a detached house or ask her neighbours not to use WiFi at home.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 2:55 pm
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Go to B&Q and buy:

1) 1 large roll of chicken wire netting
2) 1 large metal dustbin
3) Several large metal plant pots
4) a roll of garden wire
5) Some tin snips / shears

Now fashion a "faraday cage" suit out of those items

Force said co-worker to wear it at all times in the office, telling her repeatedly "it's for your own good"

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I'm wondering about the pixellation there. Co-worker corpses?

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 3:00 pm
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Is she in a cubicle?

If so then cover each wall of it in bacofoil. Tell her it is a Faraday cage and will protect her from teh radiationz.

Edit: damnit beaten to it

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 3:01 pm
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It was connected to the same network, via Ethernet, but it definitely worked better after the move

In theory if there was some weird routing going on that is feasible. Unlikely but not completely implausible.

As for OP: Put the router in a box and get her to tell you when it is turned on or not (ideally having a third party do the switching on and off).
If she gets it reliably right then there she might be abnormally sensitive. As far as I am aware though all properly properly conducted studies dont support the claims made by the alleged sufferers.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 3:09 pm
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I suspect you are within the range of a wifi network pretty much all the time, other than out in the country.

When you switch off the wifi in your office are there no others in range?

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 3:11 pm
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This made me chuckle. Do all the above and report back.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 3:16 pm
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EDIT: beaten to it!

Think there was a race of about 15 people trying to be first with that! 😆

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 3:17 pm
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broadcast a wifi hotspot on your phone for a laugh see if she notices! 😆

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 3:18 pm
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Does her feeling ill correlate to when she is stressed / bottle of vino night before / late to bed?

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 4:57 pm
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There's over 5000 people in the EMF Warriors group on Facebook, shes not alone!

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Posted : 23/11/2017 5:01 pm
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I can understand why people want to protect themselves from EMF though...

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 5:03 pm
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She has anxiety, this will probably be just one symptom of it.

 
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As for OP: Put the router in a box and get her to tell you when it is turned on or not (ideally having a third party do the switching on and off).

Would the wifi network be both off and on at the same time?

#schrodingerswifi

 
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Does the dippy hippy have a mobile phone ?

If so, you've got her by her bits - order that her phone alone needs to be switched off due the signals given off by its location, colour, brand, proximity to a muppet.

Also, get 2nd wifi access point, no SSID, turn off the one with the shiny lights she can see. She'll tell you she feels better. Tell her a month later you'd installed a higher powered device.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 5:14 pm
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There's over 5000 people in the EMF Warriors group on Facebook, shes not alone!

In the USA there is a fairly large area around their National Radio Astronomy Observatory where most types of transmitters are banned to avoid interfering with it.
Apparently the local town has a growing number of people who move there because they believe they are sensitive.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 5:15 pm
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I honestly do not know why her actions are being entertained in a workplace. If it were me I would be asking her to get a doctor's note written before I took any action.

 
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leave it on but stop broadcasting ssid (so she can't tell obvs)

Is the ssid the bit that shows up on your phone or computer, with the name of the WiFi? This sounds to me like the perfect solution!! As well as disabling the lights on the router of course

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 5:26 pm
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I think most of us would agree that this person is likely to be more worried about the effect of radiation than the actual radiation itself. We all know that there are likely to be lots more stations around and having a gsm to your ear will create a much stronger field than being 20m away from a router

but... pointing this out isn't going to help. It would be like trying to point out to someone with OCD that what they are doing isn't really needed.

Why not try and work round it? e.g. have a second router somewhere with the same SSID but with the ssid hidden and same password. I think (ie. I would need to test) that if you switch the main router off then devices should still be able to link to the second. However you still have the trust issue :(. For me when I've had to do this I've just come to an agreement with the person that when necessary we have to switch it on and we do.

We all have our ways of coping with the world

#rememberkaesae

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 5:26 pm
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Page 98, show her just how much radiation is being transmitted around 2.4Ghz. Why doesn't she melt when she walks around?

 
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And was convinced that the phases of the moon affected people in the same way it has an effect the tides ‘well it must do, as we are 70% water!’

Do you know where the term Lunatic comes from ?

 
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[quote=leffeboy ]However you still have the trust issue :(.

yes, but is it really a problem to lie to people in a way which will make them feel better?

I suggest going through the rigmarole of switching the Wifi she knows about on and off at request so that it's not obvious though.

 
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As some one above said, I’d want her to also provide a medical note before taking her seriously. Thinking something can be totally different to actually being something.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 8:26 pm
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Op please get us a picture of the crystal egg.

 
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I had the misfortune to work with a bloke last year who said that pylons near his home made him have a headache so he sold up and moved. He can’t walk near pylons at all now apparently. As he goes all week and faint.

His desktop pc used to be on the floor near his foot, and it caused pain in n his foot.

There was a bit of masking tape strategically placed on the wall as a reflection from a window on the Matt wall surface caused him to get headaches. The masking tape stopped the reflection and therefore headaches. Odd then seeing as though the tape may have strangely moved...not that I or colleagues would know anything about that....

Some things are just bad 🙄

 
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I knew a bloke who was into something crystal. He asked me to help him set something up on his PC, but then wouldn't let me touch the keyboard because said machine was actually possessed by his dead uncle and I might upset him with my aggressive typing!

I don't know him any more...

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:24 pm
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Well...the egg is obviously full of lols. That said, it's not to say her claims don't deserve genuine consideration. We've gone bat-shit with the use of WiFi / mobiles in the last few years and do we [i]really[/i] understand the impacts?

*rubs egg*

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:27 pm
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She is the part of a bell that's not the beginning or middle. Total idiot. Does the business owner not have the professional mind to sort her out?

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:31 pm
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Histrionic personality disorder

 
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We definitely need at photo of the egg.
Why don't you start taking a collection of your own comedy eggs into work?

 
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I had the misfortune to work with a bloke last year who said that pylons near his home made him have a headache so he sold up and moved. He can’t walk near pylons at all now apparently. As he goes all week and faint.

TBH, I wouldn’t want to live close to high-voltage pylons and cables either, the voltage causes issues through metal structures even some distance away; I used to cycle over to Castle Combe circuit to watch the racing sometimes, and Quarry Corner is directly underneath a set of high-voltage cables, which caused me to get strong electric shocks if I touched any metal parts of the Cannondale I was riding at the time! Proper cattle fence type shocks as well.
Then there’s the persistent buzzing especially if the air’s a bit damp. That’s a strong electromagnetic field being generated, and I wouldn’t feel at all comfortable living close to that.
Wi-fi and phone masts on the other hand I have no issues with, there’s a bloody great O2 4G mast about 75 metres away from my house, I’m just glad to have a really strong signal on my phone...
I do remember someone doing an experiment with a bunch of students who were whining about suffering health issues from a phone mast, so a temporary one was set up nearby and they were asked to note their reactions to it.
Then it was switched on and they were asked for their reactions now it had been turned off...
I think we can all figure the fairly predictable result of the experiment.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 9:53 pm
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The emf warriors group is closed, did you have to join to see that?

Plus got parasites in her brain due to emf....... Wt actual f

 
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Can she really feel these effects?

We had a recent conflict in the office and the following day she brought in a large white crystal egg thing which was apparently to ‘soak up the negative energy’ and proudly placed it on the end of her desk and between the two bickering parties to ward away such things. She also has a collection of shiny stones and herbs in her desk...

There you have your question and answer.

 
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[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldo_(short_story) ]Scifi [/url]beat her to it along while ago.

Suffering from an irrational fear doesn't mean that she's not suffering. I hope you can both work out a way of working.

 
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We had a recent conflict in the office and the following day she brought in a large white crystal egg thing which was apparently to ‘soak up the negative energy’ and proudly placed it on the end of her desk and between the two bickering parties to ward away such things.

That would be a prompt to me to argue angrily and incessantly with anyone about anything, and the nearer the crystal, the more heated the argument.

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:35 pm
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There was a UK doc where they got a pile of these 'sensitive people' stuck them in a stately home in the middle of nowhere well beyond any mobile coverage at the time. Wheeled an event mobile mast into the front courtyard and told them it was operating at full power, after two days they were genuinely hospitalising people. It was a shame there was no power to it at all.. and for the second week when it was 'switched off' the onsite doctor no longer had any visitors or need to refer anyone.

Has she banned the use of Microwave ovens yet? Have you dared tell her what frequency that operate on?

 
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Quality thread. Rather you than me OP 😉

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 10:45 pm
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Oh yes, the fun we could have describing RF burns (been there) and the amazing properties of a Tornado radar at ground level full power into a local field (paging Col)

 
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Why don't you start taking a collection of your own comedy eggs into work?

Are you mad! with hers as well everyone will be overdosing on excess positive energy.
Actually with your well established sensitivity to positive egg energy I think it was pretty cavalier of her to just go bringing in such a powerful object

 
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[quote=CountZero ]TBH, I wouldn’t want to live close to high-voltage pylons and cables either

Agreed - I did once live under pylons and there was a noticeable affect on things. Totally different to mobile phone masts or wifi.

[quote=Russell96 ]Has she banned the use of Microwave ovens yet? Have you dared tell her what frequency that operate on?

They're not really supposed to emit any radiation though - I presume they do leak a bit though, so what level is their emitted power relative to that emitted by a wifi hub or a phone mast?

[quote=Russell96 ]Oh yes, the fun we could have describing RF burns (been there) and the amazing properties of a Tornado radar at ground level full power into a local field (paging Col)

Again we're talking somewhat different stuff - I have worked at transmitter sites with proper high power transmitters and they had quite reasonable rules on having to switch things off before approaching the antennas.

 
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The whole point is to bring out into the open that there are a broad spectrum of devices also pumping out RF that their tinfoil club hasn't thought about, because it hasn't what could be considered as a typical antenna.

Do they go around flouncing at the mere presence of a 5 year old microwave oven that has not had an annual/regular microwave leakage test done on it??

Its like the cretins who protest against a mobile mast near to them but continue to use their phones, blithely unaware that the device next to them is ramping up its power because the nearest mast is further away. Inverse-Square law...

 
Posted : 23/11/2017 11:12 pm
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Ask her to remove her egg as you believe it is making you feel ill and see what she says.

 
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They could move to somewhere that there's no Radio devices, Electricity? forget about it as the passage of electrons down a wire generates a magnetic field around it, hmm how do we go about generating a radio signal? ... Move to the middle of nowhere, no radio, no electricity, hmm that big yellow thing in the sky? ooo it pumps out all kinds of stuff....

 
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Sounds like her chacras need aligning or there is an imbalance in her chi. Buy her some mood crystals or some other shit and continue using the wi-fi

 
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The famous egg, in all its glory.

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Needs a smiley face drawn on it in marker pen.

'Rude Health' - how appropriate.

 
Posted : 24/11/2017 12:01 pm
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Ludwig?

 
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“Eeeeva!”

 
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We had a recent conflict in the office and the following day she brought in a large white crystal egg thing which was apparently to ‘soak up the negative energy’ and proudly placed it on the end of her desk and between the two bickering parties to ward away such things.

Classic conflict ovoidance strategy

 
Posted : 24/11/2017 12:06 pm
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😆 that bloomin' egg! 😆

Where do you work, Infinity Foods?

 
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Behold!! The egg of peace. *bows low*

 
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I'm more interested in the hot chocolate sauce behind it. That'd pacify me!

 
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